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Title: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on February 15, 2018, 10:02:10 pm
The new Wes Anderson film has 97% on RT from 11 reviews, and an average score of 8.2/10 (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/isle_of_dogs_2018/).

It also has an 83 on Metacritic at the moment (http://www.metacritic.com/movie/isle-of-dogs?ref=hp).

So far it's my most anticipated film for the first half of the year.
Trailers/Clips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt__kig8PVU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lxqzem01IU
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Frankie on February 15, 2018, 11:27:09 pm
My most anticipated film of the year.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on February 16, 2018, 12:03:48 am
My most anticipated film of the year.
I have to wait till April before it heads to a theater near me. I expect it'll be worth the wait.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Tho Master Fie on February 16, 2018, 01:02:59 pm
Yeah I think 2018 is already looking better than both 2017 and 2016 combined...but we will see.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on February 16, 2018, 03:10:04 pm
The new Wes Anderson film has 100% on RT from 11 reviews, and an average score of 8.2/10 (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/isle_of_dogs_2018/).

It also has an 85 on Metacritic at the moment (http://www.metacritic.com/movie/isle-of-dogs?ref=hp).

So far it's my most anticipated film for the first half of the year.
Trailers/Clips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt__kig8PVU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lxqzem01IU

Can't wait - I like all but 1 of his films, so chances are I'll like this...
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on March 15, 2018, 06:52:24 pm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BOKzXQdA4Nw

They also have a VR version too:
https://youtu.be/JqXC46b1uUg
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on March 15, 2018, 07:17:16 pm
I'm getting the feeling my theater won't be showing this opening weekend, even though they've been showing trailers for it for months.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on March 30, 2018, 08:16:30 pm
There was some time open today during my trip so I spent it seeing Isle of Dogs, which was a lot of fun. Not Wes Andersonís best in my opinion but itís incredibly creative and expressive visually while maintaining Andersonís signature humor and interesting characters (even if some of them are shunted screentime-wise during the latter half). Either a B or a B+.

I found the decision to not use subtitles to be all that distracting. Itís obviously just a reversal of the joke they make in every film with talking dogs where the owner canít understand the dog while also evading expositional handholding to an extent. I can sort of understand why people are ticked off about the subplot with Greta Gerwig's character, though my issue was more with it being rushed and somewhat underdeveloped rather than the complaints about her being a white savior
Spoiler (hover to show)
. I just think itís a shame that those elements are getting it barraged with accusations of cultural appropriation when it actually has some amusing yet resonant commentary.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on March 31, 2018, 12:18:52 pm
There was some time open today during my trip so I spent it seeing Isle of Dogs, which was a lot of fun. Not Wes Andersonís best in my opinion but itís incredibly creative and expressive visually while maintaining Andersonís signature humor and interesting characters (even if some of them are shunted screentime-wise during the latter half). Either a B or a B+.

I found the decision to not use subtitles to be all that distracting. Itís obviously just a reversal of the joke they make in every film with talking dogs where the owner canít understand the dog while also evading expositional handholding to an extent. I can sort of understand why people are ticked off about the subplot with Greta Gerwig's character, though my issue was more with it being rushed and somewhat underdeveloped rather than the complaints about her being a white savior  I just think itís a shame that those elements are getting it barraged with accusations of cultural appropriation when it actually has some amusing yet resonant commentary.

Glad you enjoyed it.  Hoping it comes to my theater at some point in the near future.  This whole cultural appropriation argument is completely lost on me however.  If a film is good, I want to see it.  These SJW's that find something to complain about in everything can just go kick dirt.  Can't wait until that millennial group dies off - because their viewpoints really aren't shared be people older OR younger than them.  They are a one off generation that gets insulted by any and everything - and that will be eradicated in time.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on April 01, 2018, 12:49:22 pm
Still no word of this coming to my theater.  Even the April 13 lineup doesn't show it.  This is total bullshit.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on April 01, 2018, 01:16:59 pm
Still no word of this coming to my theater.  Even the April 13 lineup doesn't show it.  This is total bullshit.
It could be a case where the theater doesnít fully update their lineup for that week until the new releases are days away from being released. A shame, since all the details Wes Anderson crams into his films makes for a pretty great theater experience.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on April 02, 2018, 12:32:34 pm
Still no word of this coming to my theater.  Even the April 13 lineup doesn't show it.  This is total bullshit.
It could be a case where the theater doesnít fully update their lineup for that week until the new releases are days away from being released. A shame, since all the details Wes Anderson crams into his films makes for a pretty great theater experience.

It's certainly possible.  But our area is pretty fucking white-bread and mainstream, and a lot of great films pass us by.  So we will see, but I can't say I'm super confident it will get here.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Crohn's Boy on April 02, 2018, 07:23:41 pm
This was solid, but I definitely prefer Fantastic Mr. Fox.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on April 02, 2018, 07:30:51 pm
This was solid, but I definitely prefer Fantastic Mr. Fox.

How many other Wes Anderson films have you watched?
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Crohn's Boy on April 02, 2018, 07:34:55 pm
This was solid, but I definitely prefer Fantastic Mr. Fox.

How many other Wes Anderson films have you watched?

Just those two, but I am planning on watching most of his others.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on April 02, 2018, 07:38:35 pm
This was solid, but I definitely prefer Fantastic Mr. Fox.

How many other Wes Anderson films have you watched?

Just those two, but I am planning on watching most of his others.
Moonrise Kingdom should still be on Netflix. Thatís one of his finest.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on April 02, 2018, 07:40:55 pm
This was solid, but I definitely prefer Fantastic Mr. Fox.

How many other Wes Anderson films have you watched?

Just those two, but I am planning on watching most of his others.

If you are, you might want to start in chronological order to see how he evolves as a film maker.  I did that and it was pretty cool - Bottle Rocket is much more straightforward and "normal" than his films afterwards.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on April 15, 2018, 10:33:47 pm
9/10

Excellent film - my 2nd favorite Wes Anderson film.  Was very much in the Wes Anderson mold in respect to detail, narration, and score.  Every scene is layered and framed perfectly.  The humor is subtle and sharp.  The complaint I heard that you couldn't understand the Japanese characters because there were no subtitles never came to fruition - just about all of it was either straight-up decoded for the viewer via a translator or they used some other mechanism to give the viewer the gist of what was being said.  The story was pretty straightforward and mostly predictable if you pay attention.  It is a good mixture of dark and somewhat sad coupled with funny and heartwarming.  The collection of talented actors doing the voices certainly added to the ability to engross ones self in the film as you could identify each dog with a familiar voice.  Hard to find too many faults with the movie.  I suspect that I will be seeing it quite a few more times.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on April 15, 2018, 10:36:51 pm
9/10

Excellent film - my 2nd favorite Wes Anderson film.  Was very much in the Wes Anderson mold in respect to detail, narration, and score.  Every scene is layered and framed perfectly.  The humor is subtle and sharp.  The complaint I heard that you couldn't understand the Japanese characters because there were no subtitles never came to fruition - just about all of it was either straight-up decoded for the viewer via a translator or they used some other mechanism to give the viewer the gist of what was being said.  The story was pretty straightforward and mostly predictable if you pay attention.  It is a good mixture of dark and somewhat sad coupled with funny and heartwarming.  The collection of talented actors doing the voices certainly added to the ability to engross ones self in the film as you could identify each dog with a familiar voice.  Hard to find too many faults with the movie.  I suspect that I will be seeing it quite a few more times.
Thoughts on the whole subplot with the exchange student? I wish that was a bit more developed. My other main complaint was how the film sort of ignored the rest of the pack after they got separated. The last time any of them got a Line was when they were all reunited at the bunker.

I think both problems would have been fixed if the film was longer, which is a very high compliment.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on April 15, 2018, 10:45:24 pm
9/10

Excellent film - my 2nd favorite Wes Anderson film.  Was very much in the Wes Anderson mold in respect to detail, narration, and score.  Every scene is layered and framed perfectly.  The humor is subtle and sharp.  The complaint I heard that you couldn't understand the Japanese characters because there were no subtitles never came to fruition - just about all of it was either straight-up decoded for the viewer via a translator or they used some other mechanism to give the viewer the gist of what was being said.  The story was pretty straightforward and mostly predictable if you pay attention.  It is a good mixture of dark and somewhat sad coupled with funny and heartwarming.  The collection of talented actors doing the voices certainly added to the ability to engross ones self in the film as you could identify each dog with a familiar voice.  Hard to find too many faults with the movie.  I suspect that I will be seeing it quite a few more times.
Thoughts on the whole subplot with the exchange student? I wish that was a bit more developed. My other main complaint was how the film sort of ignored the rest of the pack after they got separated. The last time any of them got a Line was when they were all reunited at the bunker.

I think both problems would have been fixed if the film was longer, which is a very high compliment.

I thought the exchange student's role in the movie was done as it should have been.  I don't know how much more there was to unearth about her character.  I thought her purpose was executed while divulging enough about her character without getting too bogged down since she was more of an ancillary character with a specific function to the story, but not as a primary character.

I don't remember the separation being very long really.  And much of the first 30 minutes revolved around the pack - so I don't know how much more there was the expand upon once the young pilot and two main dogs all hook up.

On the surface, I wouldn't have minded if it had gone longer because I enjoyed it so much.  However, if they had extended it 20 minutes longer without a purpose, it very well could have been noticeable and dragged a bit.  At 101 minutes, I thought the conciseness of the film was one of its strengths as it felt no moment was unimportant to me.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on April 16, 2018, 02:41:48 pm
So how many of us have seen this now?

Me
Frank
Bread
Kashmir
Flounder

Anyone else?
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Flounder Prefers Browntown on April 16, 2018, 02:53:38 pm
So how many of us have seen this now?

Me
Frank
Bread
Kashmir
Flounder

Anyone else?
I know Tutweillerís seen it.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Frankie on April 16, 2018, 02:56:55 pm
So how many of us have seen this now?

Me
Frank
Bread
Kashmir
Flounder

Anyone else?
I know Tutweillerís seen it.

What did he think?
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Flounder Prefers Browntown on April 16, 2018, 03:09:07 pm
So how many of us have seen this now?

Me
Frank
Bread
Kashmir
Flounder

Anyone else?
I know Tutweillerís seen it.

What did he think?

7/10
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Crohn's Boy on April 16, 2018, 04:56:21 pm
Yeah this hasn't sat with me well.  Haven't really thought about it much over the past two weeks.  Definitely think Fantastic Mr. Fox is superior.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Frankie on April 16, 2018, 05:17:58 pm
Yeah this hasn't sat with me well.  Haven't really thought about it much over the past two weeks.  Definitely think Fantastic Mr. Fox is superior.

That's because you're retarded.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Tho Master Fie on April 16, 2018, 05:34:01 pm
That's because you're retarded.
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23754909_10159695691960319_5125063177462128397_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=35364729cd39330cd42657835c1b9b4b&oe=5B6837AC)

When you can't decide between "Agree", "Funny", or "Winner".
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on April 16, 2018, 05:40:25 pm
Yeah this hasn't sat with me well.  Haven't really thought about it much over the past two weeks.  Definitely think Fantastic Mr. Fox is superior.

It hasn't sat well with you AND you haven't really thought about it?  That doesn't make much sense tbh...
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Tut on April 16, 2018, 08:52:27 pm
Yeah this hasn't sat with me well.  Haven't really thought about it much over the past two weeks.  Definitely think Fantastic Mr. Fox is superior.

It's far from being Anderson's best. I much preferred The Grand Budapest Hotel.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on April 16, 2018, 09:20:42 pm
Yeah this hasn't sat with me well.  Haven't really thought about it much over the past two weeks.  Definitely think Fantastic Mr. Fox is superior.

It's far from being Anderson's best. I much preferred The Grand Budapest Hotel.
True, but given that the latter is his best film (though I havenít seen anything of his pre Fantastic Mr. Fox) Iíd say thatís a somewhat unfair comparison. I will admit that he could have juggled the characters better.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on April 16, 2018, 11:42:46 pm
Yeah this hasn't sat with me well.  Haven't really thought about it much over the past two weeks.  Definitely think Fantastic Mr. Fox is superior.

It's far from being Anderson's best. I much preferred The Grand Budapest Hotel.
True, but given that the latter is his best film (though I havenít seen anything of his pre Fantastic Mr. Fox) Iíd say thatís a somewhat unfair comparison. I will admit that he could have juggled the characters better.

I have it fairly close to GBH - just a tick behind.  But it's my 2nd favorite Wes Anderson film.
Title: Re: Isle of Dogs
Post by: Robert Neville on May 15, 2018, 03:33:32 pm
This movie certainly took its sweet time getting here. However, when I finally got to see it on Sunday, I can now just say I saw it over Infinity War. Since it's been more than a month since it released basically elsewhere, I think I can avoid spoiler tags.

In all, I'm currently leaning towards 6,5/10. Maybe it's just my perfectionist-who-never-gets-things-done side speaking, but I am always puzzled whenever a director first chooses one of the rarest, most difficult animation styles in existence, crafts an absolute visual (and auditory) marvel with it, only to then nail it to the scaffold of shopworn narrative shortcuts. Did we really need another hacker ex machina? Did we really need the conflict background reduced to a cats vs. dogs fable no-one cares about? And yes, did we really need another conspiracy theorist kid solve everything as useless adults look on?

Really, I think the Ohio girl's character deserves to be heavily criticised, though some of it is misplaced. To me, the problem is not that she's white or American, but that the good Japanese adults are so useless. The so-called "Scientist Party" does nothing but f*ck up (yes, they developed the serum - just to immediately give it straight to their enemies for no reason) so that the girl can spout off emotional rhetoric and conspiracy theories in their place, and then win. (If she were Japanese, or even non-white American, I suppose SJWs would have instead cheered her on as a reflection of themselves.) I kind of hoped the surviving scientist woman will be redeemed from her failure in the end...instead the most blatant deus ex machina I've seen in a while emerges just for the sake of a gag or two. (Seriously, why did they make little pilot the mayor? It's not like he's the only heir to all the Kobayashi conglomerate wealth regardless.)

Still, everything to do with, well, the Isle of Dogs plot itself is excellent. It speaks to the strength of the idea and the character relationships that I liked the film in spite of everything I wrote above.

P.S. Though, I'll say it was rather jarring how after the rest of the pack is seemingly diverted off to their deaths, both survivors just go "Eh, whatever." I get why Chief reacts in this way, but little pilot literally owes everything he's done on the island to them. That he seemingly forgets them so quickly unwittingly reinforces Chief's initial attitude towards him.)