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Title: Hereditary
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on May 30, 2018, 10:46:37 pm
This year's Sundance/SXSW horror darling currently has 100% on RT with 32 reviews (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hereditary) and 89 on Metacritic form 13 reviews (http://www.metacritic.com/movie/hereditary). Toni Collette has had some very early awards chatter for this A24 horror release, meaning that everyone here except Dylan will love it. He'll probably have general audiences to back him up.


Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6wWKNij_1M
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on May 31, 2018, 01:17:11 am
This year's Sundance/SXSW horror darling currently has 100% on RT with 32 reviews (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hereditary) and 89 on Metacritic form 13 reviews (http://www.metacritic.com/movie/hereditary). Toni Collette has had some very early awards chatter for this A24 horror release, meaning that everyone here except Dylan will love it. He'll probably have general audiences to back him up.


Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6wWKNij_1M


Wait what?  Ive been looking forward to this film more than any other this year.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on May 31, 2018, 10:39:44 am
This year's Sundance/SXSW horror darling currently has 100% on RT with 32 reviews (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hereditary) and 89 on Metacritic form 13 reviews (http://www.metacritic.com/movie/hereditary). Toni Collette has had some very early awards chatter for this A24 horror release, meaning that everyone here except Dylan will love it. He'll probably have general audiences to back him up.


Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6wWKNij_1M


Wait what?  Ive been looking forward to this film more than any other this year.
‘Twas a joke since this is from the same studio that distributed The Witch and It Comes at Night.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on May 31, 2018, 12:43:56 pm
This year's Sundance/SXSW horror darling currently has 100% on RT with 32 reviews (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hereditary) and 89 on Metacritic form 13 reviews (http://www.metacritic.com/movie/hereditary). Toni Collette has had some very early awards chatter for this A24 horror release, meaning that everyone here except Dylan will love it. He'll probably have general audiences to back him up.


Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6wWKNij_1M


Wait what?  Ive been looking forward to this film more than any other this year.
‘Twas a joke since this is from the same studio that distributed The Witch and It Comes at Night.

Oh - crap - didn't know that.  That tempers my enthusiasm a bit.  Not the same director though, so I might be okay.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on June 09, 2018, 01:07:32 pm
He'll probably have general audiences to back him up.
Got a D+ on Cinemascore (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4405&p=.htm). Classic A24.

Might see this today.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Robert Neville on June 09, 2018, 02:37:45 pm
He'll probably have general audiences to back him up.
Got a D+ on Cinemascore (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4405&p=.htm). Classic A24.

Might see this today.

Russian reception stays strong (http://www.kritikanstvo.ru/movies/hereditary/)...and it's playing nowhere near. I might see "Summer", a film about Victor Tsoi (a native of my city, of Korean descent, who became USSR's first rock star, and died in a car crash just before it collapsed.) It's getting a notably good reception for one of our films. Though, there's also the matter of the director being under house arrest.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on June 10, 2018, 11:27:12 pm
9/10.  My top movie of the year so far.  So pumped afterwards (luckily it was the 3rd of 3 movies I saw today).  Can't wait to watch again, knowing how it ends, to see if the clues were there earlier.  Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on June 11, 2018, 01:57:06 am
9/10.  My top movie of the year so far.  So pumped afterwards (luckily it was the 3rd of 3 movies I saw today).  Can't wait to watch again, knowing how it ends, to see if the clues were there earlier.  Highly recommended.
Trying to decide if I should catch this or First Reformed first. Both are going to be emotionally taxing watches that I’m unsure I have the fortitude to attempt a double feature for.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on June 11, 2018, 09:55:56 am
9/10.  My top movie of the year so far.  So pumped afterwards (luckily it was the 3rd of 3 movies I saw today).  Can't wait to watch again, knowing how it ends, to see if the clues were there earlier.  Highly recommended.
Trying to decide if I should catch this or First Reformed first. Both are going to be emotionally taxing watches that I’m unsure I have the fortitude to attempt a double feature for.

I have no idea how good First Reformed is.  But, if you're looking for a double feature, I highly suggest Heredity coupled with Upgrade.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Tho Master Fie on June 12, 2018, 09:53:32 am
This film was pretty intense.  Definitely somewhat lacking in originality, and is plagued by a number of haunted house/possession clichés.  It overcomes that though with the quality of everything else.  Acting was great, music was great, camerawork was especially awesome.

Going with a 7/10 for now. Even though it's one of my least favourite styles of horror, I would still recommend this.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on June 12, 2018, 05:44:02 pm
This film was pretty intense.  Definitely somewhat lacking in originality, and is plagued by a number of haunted house/possession clichés.  It overcomes that though with the quality of everything else.  Acting was great, music was great, camerawork was especially awesome.

Going with a 7/10 for now. Even though it's one of my least favourite styles of horror, I would still recommend this.

That's a pretty big grade from you for a movie of that ilk.  I was absolutely floored given what I thought I was going to be getting from the trailer.  Had that "House of the Devil" moment that dropped my jaw.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on June 12, 2018, 10:25:31 pm
Probably my favorite horror movie since The Witch. Toni Collette needs that Oscar now. I see what Bread means in that the story has some familiar/predictable elements, but the execution of it all yielded such a visceral reaction from me that I overlooked it. Definitely a contender for my favorite of the year, at either an A- or an A.

What were your favorite scene(s)?
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Kale Pasta on June 13, 2018, 08:34:42 pm
Not a huge horror fan in general but this came to my local theater so I'm definitely gonna try and see it.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on June 13, 2018, 11:31:40 pm
Not a huge horror fan in general but this came to my local theater so I'm definitely gonna try and see it.
I’m curious how you’re going to react to it. Try to go in as blind as possible.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on June 14, 2018, 08:09:03 am
Probably my favorite horror movie since The Witch. Toni Collette needs that Oscar now. I see what Bread means in that the story has some familiar/predictable elements, but the execution of it all yielded such a visceral reaction from me that I overlooked it. Definitely a contender for my favorite of the year, at either an A- or an A.

What were your favorite scene(s)?

Well, my favorite scene was the "shock" scene in the car (I don't want to give anything away).  But you know the scene I'm talking about.  I loved the ending.  Immediately thinking back afterwards, I love the scenes when she is in group therapy (there's A LOT of info revealed in those scenes).  There really weren't many scenes I didn't like.  Obviously, I thought it was far, far superior to The Witch in basically every aspect.  I'm hoping to see it again this weekend.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on June 14, 2018, 11:50:10 am
Probably my favorite horror movie since The Witch. Toni Collette needs that Oscar now. I see what Bread means in that the story has some familiar/predictable elements, but the execution of it all yielded such a visceral reaction from me that I overlooked it. Definitely a contender for my favorite of the year, at either an A- or an A.

What were your favorite scene(s)?

Well, my favorite scene was the "shock" scene in the car (I don't want to give anything away).  But you know the scene I'm talking about.  I loved the ending.  Immediately thinking back afterwards, I love the scenes when she is in group therapy (there's A LOT of info revealed in those scenes).  There really weren't many scenes I didn't like.  Obviously, I thought it was far, far superior to The Witch in basically every aspect.  I'm hoping to see it again this weekend.
That’s definitely a highlight. I was also very partial to
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. That was such a masterful display on Collette’s part, especially given her performance in the rest of the film. I did enjoy the ending even if it was more conventional than the rest of the film.

Edit: Also props for the
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. Despite some of that being spoiled in the trailers, the scene was really intense. Plus, I think her initial reaction is what being in a nightmare is like.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Kale Pasta on June 15, 2018, 12:03:28 am
Not a huge horror fan in general but this came to my local theater so I'm definitely gonna try and see it.
I’m curious how you’re going to react to it. Try to go in as blind as possible.
I know absolutely nothing about it other than the fact that it's an A24 horror movie and has some sort of twist so I'm pretty excited (haven't watched any trailers or anything).
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Crohn's Boy on June 15, 2018, 05:12:34 pm
Loved this.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on June 15, 2018, 07:05:04 pm
Loved this.
What did you think of the ending? I’ve seen some people criticize it for being a bit more conventional than the first two acts but I thought it was executed very well.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on June 15, 2018, 08:09:12 pm
Probably my favorite horror movie since The Witch. Toni Collette needs that Oscar now. I see what Bread means in that the story has some familiar/predictable elements, but the execution of it all yielded such a visceral reaction from me that I overlooked it. Definitely a contender for my favorite of the year, at either an A- or an A.

What were your favorite scene(s)?

Well, my favorite scene was the "shock" scene in the car (I don't want to give anything away).  But you know the scene I'm talking about.  I loved the ending.  Immediately thinking back afterwards, I love the scenes when she is in group therapy (there's A LOT of info revealed in those scenes).  There really weren't many scenes I didn't like.  Obviously, I thought it was far, far superior to The Witch in basically every aspect.  I'm hoping to see it again this weekend.
That’s definitely a highlight. I was also very partial to
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. That was such a masterful display on Collette’s part, especially given her performance in the rest of the film. I did enjoy the ending even if it was more conventional than the rest of the film.

Edit: Also props for the
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. Despite some of that being spoiled in the trailers, the scene was really intense. Plus, I think her initial reaction is what being in a nightmare is like.

It actually wasn't TOO spoiled in the trailers for me because it was so out of context in comparison to the movie.  So it was almost a completely different scene than the trailer showed because it was taking place in something so disparate from what I thought.  But yeah, I also loved those scenes you "spoilered" out.  Really I loved the entire film from start to finish.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on June 15, 2018, 08:11:42 pm
Loved this.
What did you think of the ending? I’ve seen some people criticize it for being a bit more conventional than the first two acts but I thought it was executed very well.

I didn't think it was too conventional at all.  The very last scenes were the logical conclusion of the entire film and what it built towards, but the mechanisms they used to execute it weren't conventional at all I didn't think.

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Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Crohn's Boy on June 15, 2018, 11:00:44 pm
Loved this.
What did you think of the ending? I’ve seen some people criticize it for being a bit more conventional than the first two acts but I thought it was executed very well.

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on June 16, 2018, 11:53:53 am
Loved this.
What did you think of the ending? I’ve seen some people criticize it for being a bit more conventional than the first two acts but I thought it was executed very well.

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Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Kale Pasta on June 17, 2018, 12:38:59 am
I should really just stop watching supernatural horror films, just isn't my genre...
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on June 17, 2018, 10:54:09 am
I should really just stop watching supernatural horror films, just isn't my genre...
I’m not too surprised by this, as it’s quite similar to The Witch in terms of pacing and tone. What did you like and dislike about it?
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on June 17, 2018, 12:36:20 pm
I should really just stop watching supernatural horror films, just isn't my genre...
it’s quite similar to The Witch in terms of pacing and tone.

No
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Tho Master Fie on June 17, 2018, 01:22:51 pm
Loved this.
What did you think of the ending? I’ve seen some people criticize it for being a bit more conventional than the first two acts but I thought it was executed very well.
I agree that it was executed well, but also with those who criticize it.  I wouldn't say I disliked the ending, but it was a slight letdown after all of the awesomeness in the first two acts. 
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Kale Pasta on June 17, 2018, 04:19:25 pm
I should really just stop watching supernatural horror films, just isn't my genre...
I’m not too surprised by this, as it’s quite similar to The Witch in terms of pacing and tone. What did you like and dislike about it?
Like The Witch, I thought there were definitely some strong positives, particularly Toni Collette in the lead role and the cinematography which I thought was great and really added a lot. Some of the imagery was also pretty creepy and impactful. However, I also thought the first hour of this movie was pretty dull and that the whole film could've been cut down a fair amount. Furthermore, supernatural horror films like this one are always going to be (for me) less tense than an atmospheric horror piece like A Quiet Place, just because that supernatural element never feels real to me. When I can't imagine being in a situation, it really loses a lot of its potential potency and that was true in this film for me. I also thought the plotting was fairly conventional, although that didn't bother me as much. Probably a 5/10 (same score I gave The Witch) overall.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Tho Master Fie on June 17, 2018, 04:28:28 pm
Like The Witch, I thought there were definitely some strong positives, particularly Toni Collette in the lead role and the cinematography which I thought was great and really added a lot. Some of the imagery was also pretty creepy and impactful. However, I also thought the first hour of this movie was pretty dull and that the whole film could've been cut down a fair amount. Furthermore, supernatural horror films like this one are always going to be (for me) less tense than an atmospheric horror piece like A Quiet Place, just because that supernatural element never feels real to me. When I can't imagine being in a situation, it really loses a lot of its potential potency and that was true in this film for me. I also thought the plotting was fairly conventional, although that didn't bother me as much. Probably a 5/10 (same score I gave The Witch) overall.
Lol, what?  A Quiet Place is about a bunch of blind aliens with bulletproof skin who run around killing anything that makes a noise.  It's like The Day of the Triffids, but way shіttier.  Everything about that is supernatural and/or unrealistic.

Hereditary does not rely on supernatural elements whatsoever.   The horror is in the tension between family members, the psychological degradation (particularly of Toni Collette's character), and the passing down of family problems and illnesses through generations.  In my interpretation, there weren't even any supernatural elements in the film - only the twisted perspectives of those who are in an insane family.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Kale Pasta on June 17, 2018, 11:34:47 pm
Like The Witch, I thought there were definitely some strong positives, particularly Toni Collette in the lead role and the cinematography which I thought was great and really added a lot. Some of the imagery was also pretty creepy and impactful. However, I also thought the first hour of this movie was pretty dull and that the whole film could've been cut down a fair amount. Furthermore, supernatural horror films like this one are always going to be (for me) less tense than an atmospheric horror piece like A Quiet Place, just because that supernatural element never feels real to me. When I can't imagine being in a situation, it really loses a lot of its potential potency and that was true in this film for me. I also thought the plotting was fairly conventional, although that didn't bother me as much. Probably a 5/10 (same score I gave The Witch) overall.
Lol, what?  A Quiet Place is about a bunch of blind aliens with bulletproof skin who run around killing anything that makes a noise.  It's like The Day of the Triffids, but way shіttier.  Everything about that is supernatural and/or unrealistic.

Hereditary does not rely on supernatural elements whatsoever.   The horror is in the tension between family members, the psychological degradation (particularly of Toni Collette's character), and the passing down of family problems and illnesses through generations.  In my interpretation, there weren't even any supernatural elements in the film - only the twisted perspectives of those who are in an insane family.
It's about verisimilitude, not what's literally possible or not possible. The situations in A Quiet Place feel real because the world is designed for them to be so (like how a wand fight in Harry Potter doesn't feel unrealistic, or a lightsaber fight in Star Wars). However, Hereditary is set in a world that is supposed to feel like the real one. The fact that it's supposed to feel real and then supernatural elements, that we're supposed to take seriously, are added makes the whole thing rather unimpactful for me.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Charles Longboat Jr. on June 18, 2018, 10:37:51 pm
Like The Witch, I thought there were definitely some strong positives, particularly Toni Collette in the lead role and the cinematography which I thought was great and really added a lot. Some of the imagery was also pretty creepy and impactful. However, I also thought the first hour of this movie was pretty dull and that the whole film could've been cut down a fair amount. Furthermore, supernatural horror films like this one are always going to be (for me) less tense than an atmospheric horror piece like A Quiet Place, just because that supernatural element never feels real to me. When I can't imagine being in a situation, it really loses a lot of its potential potency and that was true in this film for me. I also thought the plotting was fairly conventional, although that didn't bother me as much. Probably a 5/10 (same score I gave The Witch) overall.
Lol, what?  A Quiet Place is about a bunch of blind aliens with bulletproof skin who run around killing anything that makes a noise.  It's like The Day of the Triffids, but way shіttier.  Everything about that is supernatural and/or unrealistic.

Hereditary does not rely on supernatural elements whatsoever.   The horror is in the tension between family members, the psychological degradation (particularly of Toni Collette's character), and the passing down of family problems and illnesses through generations.  In my interpretation, there weren't even any supernatural elements in the film - only the twisted perspectives of those who are in an insane family.
It's about verisimilitude, not what's literally possible or not possible. The situations in A Quiet Place feel real because the world is designed for them to be so (like how a wand fight in Harry Potter doesn't feel unrealistic, or a lightsaber fight in Star Wars). However, Hereditary is set in a world that is supposed to feel like the real one. The fact that it's supposed to feel real and then supernatural elements, that we're supposed to take seriously, are added makes the whole thing rather unimpactful for me.
I suppose that's more a case of personal preference than anything, though the fact that the supernatural elements show up because of the familial baggage and its intermingling with psychological scars for respective characters makes it more than the type of isolated supernatural elements one would see in The Conjuring.

I can see how the pacing might be bothersome to some people though I think that its slow burn really helps ratchet up the tension by the final act. In my opinion the driving scene mitigates most of weak spots in that segment of the film.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: ChillinDylan Godsend on June 18, 2018, 10:53:08 pm
Like The Witch, I thought there were definitely some strong positives, particularly Toni Collette in the lead role and the cinematography which I thought was great and really added a lot. Some of the imagery was also pretty creepy and impactful. However, I also thought the first hour of this movie was pretty dull and that the whole film could've been cut down a fair amount. Furthermore, supernatural horror films like this one are always going to be (for me) less tense than an atmospheric horror piece like A Quiet Place, just because that supernatural element never feels real to me. When I can't imagine being in a situation, it really loses a lot of its potential potency and that was true in this film for me. I also thought the plotting was fairly conventional, although that didn't bother me as much. Probably a 5/10 (same score I gave The Witch) overall.
Lol, what?  A Quiet Place is about a bunch of blind aliens with bulletproof skin who run around killing anything that makes a noise.  It's like The Day of the Triffids, but way shіttier.  Everything about that is supernatural and/or unrealistic.

Hereditary does not rely on supernatural elements whatsoever.   The horror is in the tension between family members, the psychological degradation (particularly of Toni Collette's character), and the passing down of family problems and illnesses through generations.  In my interpretation, there weren't even any supernatural elements in the film - only the twisted perspectives of those who are in an insane family.
It's about verisimilitude, not what's literally possible or not possible. The situations in A Quiet Place feel real because the world is designed for them to be so (like how a wand fight in Harry Potter doesn't feel unrealistic, or a lightsaber fight in Star Wars). However, Hereditary is set in a world that is supposed to feel like the real one. The fact that it's supposed to feel real and then supernatural elements, that we're supposed to take seriously, are added makes the whole thing rather unimpactful for me.
I suppose that's more a case of personal preference than anything, though the fact that the supernatural elements show up because of the familial baggage and its intermingling with psychological scars for respective characters makes it more than the type of isolated supernatural elements one would see in The Conjuring.

I can see how the pacing might be bothersome to some people though I think that its slow burn really helps ratchet up the tension by the final act. In my opinion the driving scene mitigates most of weak spots in that segment of the film.

The pacing isn't that slow when considering other horror films.  It picks up quickly by the drive after the party.  There's a lot going on with each member of the family after that - sometimes separately, sometimes together.  The movie kind of branches off into each person's reaction to the event, then it circles back and intertwines.  I wouldn't at all call that slow pacing.
Title: Re: Hereditary
Post by: Kale Pasta on June 19, 2018, 11:38:46 am
Like The Witch, I thought there were definitely some strong positives, particularly Toni Collette in the lead role and the cinematography which I thought was great and really added a lot. Some of the imagery was also pretty creepy and impactful. However, I also thought the first hour of this movie was pretty dull and that the whole film could've been cut down a fair amount. Furthermore, supernatural horror films like this one are always going to be (for me) less tense than an atmospheric horror piece like A Quiet Place, just because that supernatural element never feels real to me. When I can't imagine being in a situation, it really loses a lot of its potential potency and that was true in this film for me. I also thought the plotting was fairly conventional, although that didn't bother me as much. Probably a 5/10 (same score I gave The Witch) overall.
Lol, what?  A Quiet Place is about a bunch of blind aliens with bulletproof skin who run around killing anything that makes a noise.  It's like The Day of the Triffids, but way shіttier.  Everything about that is supernatural and/or unrealistic.

Hereditary does not rely on supernatural elements whatsoever.   The horror is in the tension between family members, the psychological degradation (particularly of Toni Collette's character), and the passing down of family problems and illnesses through generations.  In my interpretation, there weren't even any supernatural elements in the film - only the twisted perspectives of those who are in an insane family.
It's about verisimilitude, not what's literally possible or not possible. The situations in A Quiet Place feel real because the world is designed for them to be so (like how a wand fight in Harry Potter doesn't feel unrealistic, or a lightsaber fight in Star Wars). However, Hereditary is set in a world that is supposed to feel like the real one. The fact that it's supposed to feel real and then supernatural elements, that we're supposed to take seriously, are added makes the whole thing rather unimpactful for me.
I suppose that's more a case of personal preference than anything, though the fact that the supernatural elements show up because of the familial baggage and its intermingling with psychological scars for respective characters makes it more than the type of isolated supernatural elements one would see in The Conjuring.

I can see how the pacing might be bothersome to some people though I think that its slow burn really helps ratchet up the tension by the final act. In my opinion the driving scene mitigates most of weak spots in that segment of the film.
To be fair, I did say this was personal preference the entire time. Anyway though, I agree that the driving scene was great and probably the most tense moment in the film for me.