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Charles Longboat Jr.

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James Gunn fires by Disney for crass tweets from a decade ago. No word on the yes man (or woman) they’re replacing him with for GotG 3.


I read his apology statement; Although one probably has to take it with a grain of salt I can’t help but wonder if society is losing the ability to forgive/give second chances if someone is genuinely trying to improve upon past mistakes - even if said mistakes are hard to defend while being innocuous overall.

Those tweets were pretty wild. I have no idea why he didn't delete them. I mean Disney is a company that he works for at the end of the day and any other company would have done the exact same thing if it were some regular employee who had those same exact tweets.
Disney certainly has the right to fire him, though it is strange that they only now chose to give him the boot rather than do some sort of PR background check before letting him write and direct two of their films. I suppose nothing can be done about it now, as his career is likely tarnished for the foreseeable future.

Who do you think should replace him? I’ve seen a lot of enthusiasm for Taika Waititi (who seems like the best choice of the more plausible picks) and Edgar Wright (even though that’ll never happen).

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James Gunn fires by Disney for crass tweets from a decade ago. No word on the yes man (or woman) they’re replacing him with for GotG 3.


I read his apology statement; Although one probably has to take it with a grain of salt I can’t help but wonder if society is losing the ability to forgive/give second chances if someone is genuinely trying to improve upon past mistakes - even if said mistakes are hard to defend while being innocuous overall.

Those tweets were pretty wild. I have no idea why he didn't delete them. I mean Disney is a company that he works for at the end of the day and any other company would have done the exact same thing if it were some regular employee who had those same exact tweets.
Disney certainly has the right to fire him, though it is strange that they only now chose to give him the boot rather than do some sort of PR background check before letting him write and direct two of their films. I suppose nothing can be done about it now, as his career is likely tarnished for the foreseeable future.

Who do you think should replace him? I’ve seen a lot of enthusiasm for Taika Waititi (who seems like the best choice of the more plausible picks) and Edgar Wright (even though that’ll never happen).

Waititi could certainly handle the reigns of GOTG for sure. Edgar Wright too of course, but I doubt he'd ever give Marvel another shot again. I think Waititi is their best option tbh.

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Gunn made those comments 6 years ago.  While they're not very funny, they're also clearly intended as jokes made for shock value.  The only reason he's getting flack for it now is because of Mike Cernovich of all people.
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Gunn made those comments 6 years ago.  While they're not very funny, they're also clearly intended as jokes made for shock value.  The only reason he's getting flack for it now is because of Mike Cernovich of all people.

"These missives were not funny and entirely disturbing, given a preoccupation with fetishing [sic] underage boys. That left him a sitting duck for his retroactive social media commentary."

Moody... show us on the doll where James Gunn touched you.

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To boost ratings and tighten the runtime, the Oscars are now adding a “Best Popular Film” category and presenting the awards people don’t care about during commercial breaks. No word on whether they’ll excise their “meeting the peasants” moments, their montages outside of the In Memorium segment, or at least one Trump joke.
This is getting a lot of shit for obvious reasons but I don't really think it's such a bad idea.

Remember that essay I wrote about how critics are buckling to fanboy pressure and censoring their real opinions?
I don't remember any one particular essay (although I know you've voiced that concern previously), but I do have to say that I agree with this concern, particularly as it pertains for smaller critics trying to gain an audience. I firmly believe, with no actual evidence, that this demographic positively boosts the RT scores of established blockbuster franchises.

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To boost ratings and tighten the runtime, the Oscars are now adding a “Best Popular Film” category and presenting the awards people don’t care about during commercial breaks. No word on whether they’ll excise their “meeting the peasants” moments, their montages outside of the In Memorium segment, or at least one Trump joke.
This is getting a lot of shit for obvious reasons but I don't really think it's such a bad idea.
I just feel that it condescends the films getting nominated while also showing an acquiescence toward the mob. It's not entirely impossible for popular movies to get nominated or even win major Oscars nowadays (look at Get Out and Dunkirk), so this comes across as a free handout for films that either didn't deserve awards but had high box office or a fallback option if a popular film doesn't get anything noteworthy (like if Black Panther gets snubbed for Best Picture and Director, for example). Plus, this'll basically become the Disney/comic book category anyway.

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To boost ratings and tighten the runtime, the Oscars are now adding a “Best Popular Film” category and presenting the awards people don’t care about during commercial breaks. No word on whether they’ll excise their “meeting the peasants” moments, their montages outside of the In Memorium segment, or at least one Trump joke.
This is getting a lot of shit for obvious reasons but I don't really think it's such a bad idea.

Why?  So films that are popular don't get recognized for their artistic merits on a greater scale?  It's gonna be the same deal with the animation category now, where animated films become practically ignored in the best picture category because there's a whole category for it, which leaves the Oscar voters with the tendency to neglect stuff that should've otherwise been nominated (cough Inside Out).  If this were 2017, Get Out and Dunkirk would be in that category instead of best picture.  If it were 2015, they'd leave out The Martian and Fury Road.

There's also the issue that a lot of films become popular because of their awards recognition.  American Sniper was the highest grossing film of 2014, but it wouldn't be eligible for the category because it made the majority of its money after the nominations were announced.  La La Land, Arrival, Hidden Figures, The Revenant, The Wolf of Wall Street, American Hustle, Zero Dark Thirty, and a lot more are all recent examples of films that became hits because of their acclaim and awards season buzz.  On paper, these should all qualify for "popular film," but they become excluded because of the circumstances that caused them to become popular.

What are they qualifying as a popular film anyway?  Do they just allow anything that made more than, say, $100M domestic?  Do they also allow stuff that cost a certain amount of money to make, so that bombs like John Carter or Valerian can qualify regardless of their box office gross?  What about stuff like Bright, which doesn't get a theatrical release but was built up to be a blockbuster by Netflix, had a $90M budget and a large amount of viewers?  It's such a pointless category that only serves to pander to the people who voted Infinity War into the top 30 on the IMDb 250 and think Josh Brolin deserves a best actor award.  It's like adding Best Kiss to the list of official Oscar categories.  It's especially insulting that they considered this before recognizing other departments that go virtually unrecognized, like stuntmen, and also relegating more technical categories to not air during the broadcast so that these departments can continue to go undervalued in the industry.  VFX artists who worked for months to create the groundbreaking effects in Blade Runner 2049 and War for the Planet of the Apes?  As far as the Academy is concerned, they can fuck off.
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To boost ratings and tighten the runtime, the Oscars are now adding a “Best Popular Film” category and presenting the awards people don’t care about during commercial breaks. No word on whether they’ll excise their “meeting the peasants” moments, their montages outside of the In Memorium segment, or at least one Trump joke.
This is getting a lot of shit for obvious reasons but I don't really think it's such a bad idea.

Why?  So films that are popular don't get recognized for their artistic merits on a greater scale?  It's gonna be the same deal with the animation category now, where animated films become practically ignored in the best picture category because there's a whole category for it, which leaves the Oscar voters with the tendency to neglect stuff that should've otherwise been nominated (cough Inside Out).  If this were 2017, Get Out and Dunkirk would be in that category instead of best picture.  If it were 2015, they'd leave out The Martian and Fury Road.

There's also the issue that a lot of films become popular because of their awards recognition.  American Sniper was the highest grossing film of 2014, but it wouldn't be eligible for the category because it made the majority of its money after the nominations were announced.  La La Land, Arrival, Hidden Figures, The Revenant, The Wolf of Wall Street, American Hustle, Zero Dark Thirty, and a lot more are all recent examples of films that became hits because of their acclaim and awards season buzz.  On paper, these should all qualify for "popular film," but they become excluded because of the circumstances that caused them to become popular.

What are they qualifying as a popular film anyway?  Do they just allow anything that made more than, say, $100M domestic?  Do they also allow stuff that cost a certain amount of money to make, so that bombs like John Carter or Valerian can qualify regardless of their box office gross?  What about stuff like Bright, which doesn't get a theatrical release but was built up to be a blockbuster by Netflix, had a $90M budget and a large amount of viewers?  It's such a pointless category that only serves to pander to the people who voted Infinity War into the top 30 on the IMDb 250 and think Josh Brolin deserves a best actor award.  It's like adding Best Kiss to the list of official Oscar categories.  It's especially insulting that they considered this before recognizing other departments that go virtually unrecognized, like stuntmen, and also relegating more technical categories to not air during the broadcast so that these departments can continue to go undervalued in the industry.  VFX artists who worked for months to create the groundbreaking effects in Blade Runner 2049 and War for the Planet of the Apes?  As far as the Academy is concerned, they can fuck off.
I mean, in principle I think it's not a bad idea to have another category so that blockbusters or films in genres like sci-fi/horror with no chance at best picture can get some recognition (Fury Road, The Dark Knight etc.).

However, since you brought to my attention the fact that Infinity War is currently #30 on the IMDB top 250, I take back anything I said and agree that this is a terrible idea since it'll just go to Marvel and Star Wars to appease Disney fanboys.
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