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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2018, 10:56:14 pm »
Yeah love Edward Norton - but didn't he even hate that film so much he shot his way out of his commitment to Bruce Banner going forward?
I think that film is better than most MCU films, honestly.  I even think that the Eric Banana Hulk film is better than most MCU films.  They're not anything spectacular, but at least they successfully portray Bruce Banner's internal struggle and work it into the plot,  instead of a generic superhero story peppered with "witty" jokes and explosions.

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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2018, 10:59:11 pm »
Yeah love Edward Norton - but didn't he even hate that film so much he shot his way out of his commitment to Bruce Banner going forward?
I think that film is better than most MCU films, honestly.  I even think that the Eric Banana Hulk film is better than most MCU films.  They're not anything spectacular, but at least they successfully portray Bruce Banner's internal struggle and work it into the plot,  instead of a generic superhero story peppered with "witty" jokes and explosions.

Not sure I ever saw that one.  Only reason I saw the latest one is because of Norton.  Honestly, I always thought the character was pretty lame and the TV show from the '70s with big Lou was fucking terrible.  But I'll be giving the Norton one another shot tomorrow.  It's gotta be better than Iron Man 2, which I've seen a couple of times and I already know it blows.

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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2018, 10:33:44 pm »
3 - Iron Man 2:  3/10

Although Robert Downey Jr gives a solid performance as Tony Stark dealing with his own mortality in a very believable way, the rest of the movie is a total mess.  Starting with the ridiculous caricature that is Justin Hammer - the totally inept government defense company despite being unable to do anything right, to the absurd lack of security at the most famous race in Europe when Ivan first comes on the scene and puts everyone in danger, to the ease that Ivan was broken out of a French jail by the same inept Hammer.  The "I want my bird" schtick was really clunky and unnecessary, and the worldwide silence regarding the only known person to possess arc technology other than Tony whose death was poorly faked and would have been seen through easily.  Hammer's subsequent failure to oversee Ivan and let him take total control of all his computer systems and treat him like a total bitch is equally absurd.  The midpoint Iron Man vs Iron Man party fight is trite, and wouldn't Tony have the suits coded with voice activation or something so nobody else could steal and use them?  Especially knowing that the government is looking to acquire his technology?  Then Starks builds a new chemical element out of his dad's Expo map that will fix the blood poison - ummmm - okay?  Whereas in the first film we had a different Iron Man vs Iron Man at the end, this time we are "treated" to Iron MEN vs Iron MEN which is a bit more entertaining, but still just a bunch of explosions and weapons.  By the way, the glass ceiling on the entire Expo being shattered would have killed just about everybody in the audience, but no worries.  And why not fly away again like they did before instead of facing all the drones 1-on-1?  Awesome FINAL weapon though (the one off laser).  On the bright side, Don Cheadle is an upgrade over Terrence Howard as Rhodey, and Scarlett Johansson's Black Widow is introduced with some good hand-to-hand fight scenes.  Overall, one of the worst, most disjointed, and cheezy MCU films that continually dropped hints for upcoming MCU films (Hulk, Thor, and Avengers).
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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2018, 07:29:53 pm »
Watching The Incredible Hulk tonight...

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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2018, 08:08:05 pm »
I think I've made it clear in the past that The Incredible Hulk is what I'd consider to be one of the MCU's most underrated entries, as well as arguably the most overlooked installment in the series. I absolutely loved Edward Norton as Bruce Banner. He is by far my favorite portrayal of the character (although I do love Mark Ruffalo's take and I even enjoy the Eric Bana version), and I especially really liked and appreciated how the film focuses very heavily on Bruce's conflict with the beast within. His inner turmoil is realized beautifully throughout the entire film. While I enjoyed the Hulk in future MCU films, I must admit I am kind of sad that Universal has no interest in sharing the character with Marvel thus we're never going to get another standalone Hulk film.
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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2018, 10:13:02 pm »
4 - The Incredible Hulk:  5.5/10

Great opening sequence.  Norton plays the role of paranoid, on the run fugitive really well.  Hulk CGI is pretty bad - gets a lot better in Avengers films. Military dialogue is really cheezy. Interesting how Norton's character in first 30 min becomes similar to Stark character in Iron Man 3 - desolate, lost, etc. Seems to be an unnecessary risk for Norton to go back to the college once he has the lost info. Lame that with all the destruction the Hulk causes, nobody dies most of the movie, even when Tim Roth goes ultra-stupid and walks up to him like a drunk frat boy. Hulk showing capacity to acknowledge & protect (Liv Tyler) isn't something we see with the Hulk in the Avenger films where, when he's in Hulk mode, there's no "off" switch - that's a good side of him to see. Throwing a rock at the lightning was funny. Norton has a lot of PTSD flashbacks we don't ever see in Ruffalo's Hulk. American Werewolf in London (1981) had better transformative special effects than Banner turning into Hulk on the table. Dr. Sterns is really dorky and lame - he's kind of like Dr. Okun from Independence Day in his goofiness and clunky quippiness.  Of course, being MCU, we're gonna end with Hulk vs Hulk - just like Iron Man vs Iron Man, Iron Men vs Iron Men, and Black Panther vs Black Panther.  Felt a little like end fight of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.  Didn't like how they treated Banner's accident as like a 1 in a million fluke, but goofy doctor was able to basically replicate it in a matter of minutes for Roth's Hulk without any of the same equipment or prep.  Ed Norton is light years better than Mark Ruffalo - too bad he didn't stick with it because the non-Hulk scenes are so much better with Norton.  In all, it was a mid-level MCU movie that was highlighted by Norton's acting skills with some great individual scenes of Norton trying to hide & become "normal" again; but, the CGI and action sequences were below par, the mililtary scenes & dialogue were stale, and the ending was run-of-the-mill for MCU.

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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2018, 06:29:27 pm »
The first Thor tonight...

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« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2018, 09:45:28 pm »
5 - Thor:  6/10

RUNNING COMMENTARY:  Gorgeous 3D in this film. Great first appearance by Thor - really cool to set it up that way.  Similar to Captain America to start with the finding of the main character then fading back to spending much of the movie on how we got here.  The Casket of the Ancient Winters looks a lot like the Tesseract - a bit confusing.  It's still there when Thor is being crowned, but Frost Giants tried to steal it back.  Good to see death dealt out early.  Thor showing his fatal flaw early - his character is going to have a massive arc.  The CGI special effects in Asgard are quite striking.  The mechanics and aesthetics of the Bi-Frost is very cool.  Man, that hammer is a powerful weapon now - excellent kill on the big monster in Yodinheim.  The Frost Giants are kind of flat villains.  Odin had no choice but to banish Thor - good set up there.  Why does Thor go through one Bi-Front worm hole and the hammer go through another, yet both end up on Earth? Odin should have thrown it through the same portal.  Good cut back to Earth upon Thor's banishment. Thor's arrogance brings on some good humor. The attempted hammer acquisition scene is kind of goofy - like that many people would really care about a hammer stuck in dirt?  Movie flattens out once they get back to Earth.  Nice twist with Loki being born a Frost Giant and being taking for political purposes - gives Loki a reason to have no loyalty anymore to anyone in Asgard. The scenes on Earth are much more bleh than the scenes on Asgard. Agent Coulson taking Jane's research is a good plot device to get Thor back with Jane's group.  Eric Selvig mentions that he knew a scientist who was a pioneer in Gamma radiation - an obvious reference to Hulk.  The scenes with just Jane and Thor are kind of clunky and awkward - not nearly as good as the Stark/Pepper and Hulk/Elizabeth scenes. The inability of the Asgardians (mother, father, etc) to see that Loki wants Thor to stay gone so Loki can remain King is a bit unrealistic.  Good midway marker to show Thor isn't worthy yet when he can't lift the hammer - his character hasn't grown enough yet.  Loki's trick about father being dead reminds me of the Emperor's trick about Anakin killing Padme. Thor's character flips awfully quickly when he finds out he's been banished for life - suddenly he gets it - a little quick for that evolution. Where did this Iron Giant come from?  It's pretty bad ass though. Enjoyed the end fight scene in New Mexico - much different then some of the other MCU films - touching "death" scene, and great way to give Thor back his powers.  Nice touch having Thor break the rainbow bridge thereby destroying the Bi-Frost and saving the Frost Giants he once wanted to obliterate - his character arc is complete.  Again, the love story of Thor/Jane kind of gets in the way of the movie more than adding to it. Touching ending with his father.  Easter egg has Nick Fury showing Dr. Selvig the Tesseract in a case - and we see Loki in Dr. Selvig's mind

REVIEW:  The CGI special effects in this film are really strong - especially in 3D.  It's quite noticable coming on the heels of The Incredible Hulk, which had terrible CGI.  Thor's story/arc is well conceived, though his realization flips awfully quickly only after Loki visits him.  The scenes on Asgard are filled with energy, great designs, and action-packed;  whereas, the scenes on Earth are pretty flat and unremarkable, and the love story between Thor and Jane gets in the way of the movie more than adding to it.  The pacing is really up & down - it picks up everytime we cut back to Asgard, but screeches almost to a halt when we cut back to Earth.  Darcy isn't as annoying as I remembered her to be - I know she gets much more so in the 2nd film.  The ancillary human characters are pretty basic and don't bring much to the table.  The ending fight scene on Earth is much better than some of these duplicate hero fight scenes that often permeate these MCU film.  Not too many references to upcoming MCU films - so it's not just a trailer for Avengers.  Overall, a decent film that was very up & down, but had its moments.

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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2018, 05:11:20 pm »
Watching The Avengers now.  So far, not very impressed.

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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2018, 07:14:54 pm »
6 - The Avengers:  4/10

RUNNING COMMENTARY:  Opens with Thanos voice knowing that the Tesseract is on Earth - and gives Loki a staff with a mind stone in it.  Tesseract energy has been activated on its own.  Dr. Selvig is a main scientist at SHIELD now, working on the Tesseract - they can't control it. Selvig says it is throwing off low levels of gamma radiation which is harmless, to which Fury says "that's not harmless" - a nod to the Hulk.  Loki is portaled in by the Teseseract, and has some of a new stone (Mind Stone) in his spear - he seems to take control of Hawkeye with it. Nick Fury tries to leave with the Tesseract, but Loki stops him.  Haha - "an ant has no quarral with a boot".  The Mind Stone immediately turns anyone to his side. Hawkeye shoots Nick Fury and they take the Tesseract.  So, the Mind Stone can turn people AND has laser attack power - nice.  Surprised by the overall lack of security in a place holding the Tesseract. Worm hole Tesseract created explodes, collapsing the entire structure. Loki on top of the Jeep with a sceptre looks kind of lame.  With the Tesseract in Loki's hands, the Avengers will obviously need to be assembled. Black Widow letting herself get captured and interrogated so she can get info is an overused plot device in a lot of spy movies - kind of canned. The dialogue is really stale and canned so far.  Quickly cutting to Calcutta to get Banner - movie jumping around a lot.  Ah - they want Banner so he can track the gamma radiation of the Tesseract - that's pretty good. Jumping to Nick Fury with the oversight cancel. Now jump to Captain America boxing. Man, this dialogue is really flat. Howard Stark thought the Tesseract could be the key to unlimited energy. Now jump to Iron Man fixing something. Agent Coulson shows up and tells Tony he's got work to do.  Everything revolving around getting back the Tesseract.  This movie has completely become one group (Avengers) trying to find other group (Loki, Hawkeye, Selvig). Loki still bitching about not being king anymore. Okay, so the big aircraft carrier can fly.  The special effects in this film aren't up to those in Thor.  So now we have the floating carrier and the bad guys lair as the two main stations. Even the humor is stiff (trading cards). Another canned scene with Loki making everyone bow and some old dude standing up to him (Spider-Man 2, Hunger Games, etc.). Loki got captured awfully easily - must be a trap! And, here comes Thor - just takes Loki. Man, these one-liners are brutal. Captain America's purity is going to get annoying. Just a completely pointless fight between Iron Man and Thor - other than we haven't had a big fight in a while. We're gonna stick with the "ant/boot" joke, huh? Quite a lot of monologuing in this film. So, now Thor is suddenly in?  2 minutes ago he was in a death fight with Iron Man and Captain America.  Now all is cool?  Loki and Robert Downey Jr are the only good things so far in this movie. The Iron Man/Captain America feud feels so forced. Everyone talking so monotone - like they're going through the motions - really strange energy this entire film. Shocking - SHIELD is gonna use the Tesseract to make weapons?  Who would have thought? Of course, they will justify after what happened in Thor. More in-fighting and bitching. So, the SHIELD ship with all the agents was completely blind to Hawkeye shooting a bomb into its hull?  Nice security/defense there.  Hawkeye and 7 mercs are going to take over the ship on their own - this is absurd.  CGI for Hulk is much better than it was in the Hulk movie. The middle part of this movie is basically Avengers: Civil War. Captain America is much weaker in this film that his film. Surprising that Agent Coulson dies - first real surprise in these films. Fury monologuing about the Avenger Initiative.  Man, this movie drags - the pacing is very erratic.  All these 1-on-1 stock conversations are getting old. Now we're getting ready for the big battle - everyone's all friendly.  The transformation into Iron Man is really cool. Funny how we never get shots of civilians dying - even during all out war and destruction - pretty unrealistic. 8,000 cars explode and building crumble, but no civilian deaths. The evil slug ship is cool.  Cue the inept cop bit. The Hulk is the best part of this big battle. Cue the Council ordering something stupid but being ignored bit. Cue the wiping out an entire city but stopped at the last second bit.  Like the quick reactions with Tony saving New York and the Hulk saving Tony. Final fight scene was almost 30 minutes.  And the Stark Tower is now just an A Tower for Avengers.  Yuk.


REVIEW:  This movie was a big letdown - now I remember why I only saw it once.  It jumps around a ton at the beginning as they work to assemble the Avenger team.  The story is pretty basic - get back the Tesseract that Loki stole, but the dialogue and endless stale 1-on-1 conversations were difficult to sit through.  Robert Downey Jr brought a little life to a very flat atmosphere on the ship.  The CGI/special effects was a step down from the Thor movie, though The Hulk CGI was much improved from his only stand alone film.  All the in-fighting and canned one-liners got old real quick.  They literally threw every shitty movie trope they could think of into the second half of this film - from the inept cop bit, to a Council making a dumb decision which is ignored, to everyone going to die but being saved at the final second bit.  Some of the creatures in the big battle were pretty cool, but at about 30 minute run-time, the battle went on longer than it needed to - The Hulk sequences were by far the best parts of the battle.  Again, the lack of civilian deaths when endless massive explosions and buildings collapsing is unrealistic to the point of absurd.  The pacing of the film was really clunky - so many of these 1-on-1 stock conversations just grinded the movie to a halt.  Some of the jokes stuck, but too many missed or were ill-timed.  Overall, a below average film that was tough to stay engaged with as it felt they just added scenes to stretch the runtime whereas cutting it by 30-45 minutes would have been the better choice.

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« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2018, 09:40:37 pm »
7 - Iron Man 3:  8/10

RUNNING COMMENTARY:  Starting in the past is a change for MCU - nice touch meeting Yinsen.  Screws over the Aldrich Killian (AIM) who obviously will hold a massive grudge.  Happy looks like Travolta from Pulp Fiction. Dunce cap is funny. Tony feels much more like the Tony Stark from the first Iron Man early on. Good humor in opening scenes. Got dark quick with Ben Kingsley as a Bin Ladin type (The Mandarin). Finally have a President (Ellis) in the mix. The Iron Patriot?  Yuk.  At least they made fun of it. PTSD creeping in early. Very cool scene inside Killian's brain. Of course he tries to turn Pepper to the dark side right away. Tony showing a vulnerable side for once. Pepper not very understanding of Tony's issues. WTF was that - metal that made a dude explode by sniffing it?  Good interlude cuts with The Mandarin. Finally get realistic where a bunch of innocents didn't survive a massive explosion. Good deduction to send him to Tennessee. The chick from 1999 (Mia Hansen) just showed up. Wow - excellent save of Pepper.  This one is MUCH darker. Anyone (military/police) gonna stop the helicopters from shooting missiles into Tony's house since it's live on fucking TV? Great improve to take down the helicopters. Good twist - abandoned in an unknown place by Jarvis. Some good little humor mixed in with the dark tone.  "Dads leave, no need to be a pussy about it"...LOL!!  Now the reveal - Mia thinks Killian works for The Mandarin - not a shock. Some good chemistry between Tony and Harley (the kid). Now The Mandarin's people have tracked Tony to Rose Hill and are trying to kill him.  Seeing Tony improv without Jarvis and all his tech stuff is really cool. When will people learn to "double tap"? Now the bad guy is still alive. The Mandarin just bitch slapped the President. Now we know Killian made Chad Davis a test subject, and that's what led to Rose Hill explosion. Some great info-gathering without being obvious and easy. Very self-contained for an MCU film. Mia's betrayal was obvious - first real bad move in the film. Nice twist with Iron Patriot getting captured. Almost see Tony rediscovering himself without all his toys. Great twist having The Mandarin be a puppet for Killian who is running everything. We're getting too much monologuing from the "bad guys". So Killian breathes fire - nice. Flying Iron Man suit is pretty great - nice effects in a movie without too many. Having the Vice President in on it to heal his daughter is a nice touch - but once Tony called him and he did nothing, wouldn't it be pretty obvious he's in on it? - plus, we've seen that gimmick enough times haven't we?  See what happens when you don't "double tap" - overkill the bad guy when you think he's dead in the first place. Didn't see that truck coming. Wondering why House Party Protocol wasn't called the minute Jarvis was back up and running. Of course we're gonna get the "try to save girl but bad guy gets in the way" trope. How is this dude SO much stronger than Tony in Iron Man suits?  Okay, so Pepper is now a complete bad ass. So Clean Slate protocol destroys all the Iron Man suits - seems Tony is out of the Iron Man business now.  Good ending narration from Tony.  So Tony is Iron Man soldier no more - his character has come full circle from the cave in Afghanistan.  Tossing his Arc in the ocean akin to Top Gun with the dog tags.

REVIEW:  Quality film that was better than I remember.  Such a complete 180 from the canned, wooden script and delivery of The Avengers.  Seeing Tony Stark battle demons like this was quite the spectacle.  Much more dark tone to this film, which made it much more realistic as explosions actually led to people dying and suffering.  Didn't have the over-jumpiness of Avengers - it flowed well from past to present and scene to scene.  Some good dry humor, but far from goofy or over-campy (Dad's leave, no need to be a pussy about it).  Stark had great chemistry with the kid who made a good Short Round type.  Much more self-contained film than most of preceding ones.  Seeing Tony have to improv without the help of Jarvis or his high-tech toys was really interesting.  There were a couple of obvious "twists" - like Mia working for the bad guy and the canned Vice President working with the bad guys; but having The Mandarin be a puppet was nicely hidden.  There were a few nitpick unrealistic points - like helicopters repeatedly hurling missiles at Tony's house with no military or police intervention.  And, when will the good guys learn to "double tap"?  Tony could have ended the 2nd in command early in the movie.  Also, not calling in House Party Protocol the minute Jarvis was back online was a stretch.  Tony's character arc was really well done, and his journey as the Iron Man soldier seems complete.  As always, Robert Downey Jr gave a great performance with convincing range from vulnerability to snarkiness to arrogance.  The final fight scene was pretty cool with a bunch of Iron Men vs a bunch of Extremis-infused villains.  Loved what they did with Pepper's character near the end.  Overall, a very good movie that cast aside many of the usual MCU tropes for a more "real" character evolution contained within the Marvel universe.
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« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2018, 05:37:45 pm »
8 - Thor The Dark World:  2/10

RUNNING COMMENTARY:  Dark Elf history.  Aether - an ancient force of infinite destruction.  Apparently it turns creatures into the Kursed.  Malekith leads the Dark Elves.  Asgard took the Aether before Malekith could use it - so he killed everyone (including his own people) to kill the Asgard soldiers.  Aether seems very much like "The One Ring".  So, burying it deep is the answer?  Yeah, that never works.  Loki is a prisoner for what he did in Avengers - sentenced to life in the dungeon.  Thor restoring peace in 9-rhelms because of destruction of bi-frost - I guess Asgard sees itself as world police much like U.S.  The 3D has a lot of cross-talk in this one during battle sequences. Thor as a love-sick puppy is pretty lame seeing as how he is a God and all. Okay - this is the annoying Darcy I remember. The date thing and this group of 3 is very awkward. Naked Dr. Selvig is pretty funny. Wow is this slow and dull so far. God, so both Darcy AND Ian are fucking stupid. So they buried the Aether "deep", yet some scientist chick is pulled right to it through some ghetto time warp and gets infected...okay.  Didn't really look very buried. The humor in this is awful. Ok - so the Aether is powerful. Cue the "higher race talking about us like we're dirt". So Odin had to go to a book to talk about the Aether even though he knew his grandfather was the one that took it? So the bad guy still has some Aether left in a stone? Oh, so it was a convergence (every 5,000 years) that the worlds aligned perfectly and she just happened to be right near a connection in the ghetto?  Got it. Heimdall not doing real well with his vision deal - couldn't see Jane, couldn't see the creature had the Aether buried in his body, and was late seeing the Dark Elves invading. Man, for being the most powerful of the nine rhelms, these Asgarding soldiers are really weak. What the hell is Thor doing while the shield is destroyed, the Dark Elves invade, all his soldiers are whipped, and his mother dies? They don't tell Loki his "mother" is dead until after the funeral? That's pretty harsh. The Aether causes Jane to have visions. Odin showing weakness. These conversation scenes lack energy.  Ok - Loki changing to Captain America was funny. Loki's humor is the best thing about this movie so far. Pretty easy springing someone from a mental institution - don't need to show any ID or anything. And another warp zone perfectly situated right outside the mental institution where he was being held. Just like Magneto drawing the iron out of the security guard. Good plan to destroy the Aether, though it didn't quite work. There are some shaky cuts during these fight sequences. Loki seems dead, but that's unlikely. Malekith wants to unleash the Aether on Earth so the convergence will bring it to all nine rhelms.  Again, convenience is key as they ended up right at a warp directly to her city on Earth. So it's gonna be science vs magic basically here at the end. The forced humor just doesn't work much in this film. The 9 rhelms converging is pretty cool actually. That end fight was pretty flat.  Thor turning down the throne is a nice twist, as is Odin being Loki in disguise. But where is Odin?  So, you buried it poorly and that didn't work.  Now you give it to The Collector?  That's the safest option?  SMH.

REVIEW:  Ugh. The worst of the MCU films to this point.  Almost nothing worked.  First off, it was just boring - didn't engage and hard to keep attention.  Secondly, the humor in this was just awful - outside of some funny quips by Loki, the forced humor was really clunky and missed the mark repeatedly.  The "convenience" factor of when and where the warp zones occurred got a bit ridiculous.  The special effects were a step down from the first Thor - and the cross-talk within the 3D was distracting during battle sequences.  Thor, the God of Thunder, being a love-sick puppy for the first 30 minutes was taxing.  Felt like a lot was stolen from other movies - the early description of the Aether was essentially a recap of the "One Ring" from LOTR, and Malekith drawing it out of her was very similar to Magneto drawing out the iron from the security guard in X2.  There were a couple of cool scenes - like the convergence of the 9-rhelms - but there wasn't enough eye candy to even begin to compensate for the lack of energy for much of this movie.  Ending scene with The Collector shows his motivation in GOTG.  Overall, skip it unless you need to see how the Aether ties in to the universe.

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« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2018, 05:42:12 pm »
Aether - an ancient force of infinite destruction.
Leave it to the MCU to come up with the dumbest possible interpretation of aether.

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« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2018, 05:43:30 pm »
Aether - an ancient force of infinite destruction.
Leave it to the MCU to come up with the dumbest possible interpretation of aether.

This movie was a total fucking mess.  Especially after watching the surprisingly good Iron Man 3. 

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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2018, 11:54:23 am »
Next up...Captain America: The Winter Solider.

It gets pretty decent after that I think.  The rest of the order and how I remember them...

GOTG (my favorite comic book film)
GOTG 2 (very good sequel that is likely top 5 MCU)
Age of Ultron (ass from what I remember)
Ant-Man (I liked the only time I saw it)
Captain America: Civil War (I liked the only time I saw it)
Doctor Strange (The hands, the hands. Top 3 MCU)
Spider-Man Homecoming (Not a fan)
Thor: Ragnarok (Was a fan - borderline top 5 MCU)
Black Panther (Meh)

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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2018, 08:13:34 pm »
Captain America Winter Soldier - 6.5/10.  Review when I sober up.

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« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2018, 09:28:13 pm »
9 - Captain America The Winter Soldier:  6.5/10

RUNNING COMMENTARY:  Begins in D.C. with Rogers outrunning Sam Wilson (Falcon) over and over. Hey, the guy from Purge 2 is in this. C.A. and Black Widow running ops together. Sounds like everything running through SHIELD. Pretty good infiltrate/rescue scene on boat. Why take off the mask? Of course, don't detain the guy you just knocked out - gee I wonder if that will come back to bite them? Fury letting C.A. in on these aircrafts they are building (Project Insight) - Floating city ships like WALL-E, but with weapons. So C.A. and Fury/SHIELD not seeing eye to eye. Nice C.A. museum. He finally gets to meet old Agent Carter - sad to see her with dementia - tough scene. Fury wants Senator Robert Redford to delay Insight - not sure why yet. Falcon lost his wing man in the war much like C.A. lost Bucky. Good dual storylines so far with C.A. soul-searching and Fury/SHIELD/Insight situation.  Tried to assassinate Fury - the humor didn't fit well in that scene. So no real cops are gonna show up during this massive shoot out?  Dumb. And these assassins can't hit an easy target through an open window with a machine gun?  Why not just lead off with Bucky blowing up his truck? Nice escape though. Bucky may have just killed Fury (doubtful though). Oh shit - Fury is dead.  CA hid the USB Fury gave him in a vending machine. Senator (who is likely the bad guy) giving CA info that Fury may be double dealing which got him killed. So now they're trying to assassinate Rogers - interesting. Funny vending machine w/Natasha. She knows Winter Soldier killed Fury. Going off the grid with B.W. - taking him to where he was trained in military. Nice WarGames reference/joke. Nazi scientist (Zola - the HYDRA scientist) as A.I. in the computer - recruited by SHIELD. HYDRA still up & running and executing missions. Looks as though HYDRA is taking Project Insight (guessing the Senator is part of HYDRA). SHIELD tried to blow up CA & BW in the bunker - Senator must be pulling the strings. Obviously - so predictable. Winter Soldier is Senator's asset - killing the maid was harsh but necessary.  CA & BW show up at Wilson's house - nice way to tie him in. BW disinfranchised with SHIELD now. Oh - he was kind of already Falcon, well that makes things easier. Oh man, Senator Stern (Shandling) is HYDRA - no wonder he hated Tony Stark and wanted the Iron Man suit. Zola's algarythm is a program which chooses Insight's targtes - Woh - they mention Bruce Banner, Steve Strange and others who are or will be a threat to HYDRA. Well, he was disposable anyway - Winter Solider did what was needed. Boy, there sure are a lot of massive shoot outs in broad daylight in these MCU films. Just walking down the street with a grenade launcher - again, no police in sight. And the reveal - Winter Soldier is Bucky (but doesn't know it). Why did they let themselves get captured after all that?  Ha - Fury is alive. So they gave Bucky a metal arm and turned him into a Super Soldier after the fall - he goes into cryo-freeze until they need him for the next mission. So all these SHIELD personnel are actually part of HYDRA - interesting. CA & BW both want SHIELD & HYDRA brought down. Sounds like a tough task to infiltrate all 3 carriers. SHIELD vs HYDRA battle was good - could have drawn out a little longer for the mistrust aspect. Nice twist with BW as one of the council - well done there. Winter Soldier doesn't play around - this dude straight executes people. Nice MMA hold by CA on WS. Do you really have to drop the shield off the ship? Aww - Bucky saved him. Looks like SHIELD is disbanded - and HYDRA agents getting picked up. So CA, BW, and Falcon look to be the Three Amigos now. BW hands CA the Bucky file and says "you might not want to pull at that thread" - but he and Falcon will go after him.

REVIEW:   A bit of an up and down film that started slowly, but found its groove at around the midway point and was strong from there on out.  The corruption within the organization that is supposed to be shielding (yes, I went there) everyone from danger and corruption was a strong message.  Now, the "bad guy" was overtly obvious the first time he was on the screen - so that was certainly a negative.  Captain America's piousness gets a little old - but they are at least consistent with him.  Similar to Hulk and Iron Man, there were segments where he had to "find himself" and go on a soul searching journey for a while.  It was fine - but it's starting to get a little old now.  I found Black Widow's character much more intreguing from the aspect of her arc and ultimate decision of whether to "out herself" for the good of the world.  There was some clunky humor early on (like when Fury is getting shot at) that really wasn't necessary.  Having the Zazi scientist Zola be a main part of the story from an A.I. perspective was pretty cool and really set the stage for the HYDRA infiltration of SHIELD.  The Winter Soldier character was immensely strong, and his story is pretty deep because on one hand he is a straight up killer - no monologuing or bargaining with him - he just kills tons of people.  On the other hand, he has been brainwashed and weaponized by HYDRA and spends most of his time in cryo-freeze until he is needed, which is really sad.  The pacing was erratic for the first hour, but it really picked up steam and flowed well the second hour.  Falcon was cool and all, but tough to buy that he could literally avoid an F-15 after not being in that suit for a while and not really being a superhero.  I mean, Iron Man took bullet shots but was protected from his suit - Falcon took zero bullet shots despite being tracked by an F-15 and a barrage of missiles.  Also, we have another scene where the Winter Soldier is just walking down the street grenade launching the area with no police in sight for quite a while.  They did a good job associating SHIELD with HYDRA and the need to eliminate both organizations.  The open ended finish leaves a lot of options for Black Widow and Nick Fury, whereas Captain America and Falcon (who have formed a strong bond) will try to "rescue" Bucky.  Overall, a solid MCU entry that got better as it went on.  Though it's nowhere near a top level MCU film (GOTG, Iron Man, etc), it holds its own as a sequel and is a pivotal shifting point in the MCU universe.

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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2018, 09:41:54 pm »
Captain America Winter Soldier - 6.5/10.  Review when I sober up.

Gay film.

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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2018, 09:47:30 pm »
Captain America Winter Soldier - 6.5/10.  Review when I sober up.

Gay film.
Definitely one of the worst superhero films I've seen.

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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2018, 11:55:32 pm »
Captain America Winter Soldier - 6.5/10.  Review when I sober up.

Gay film.
Definitely one of the worst superhero films I've seen.

Avengers was way worse.

 

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