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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #60 on: April 23, 2018, 12:39:48 pm »
Captain America - Civil War this afternoon.  Getting closer to a Dr. Hands rewatch!
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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #61 on: April 23, 2018, 10:24:40 pm »
14 - Captain America Civil War:  7/10

RUNNING COMMENTARY:  Open back in 1991 HYDRA base - removing Winter Soldier from cryo-freeze and torturing/training him. See his first mission shooting the driver of a car and removing blue packets from the trunk. Present now. CA, BW, Falcon, & Wanda staking out a building that they think is about to be robbed - which it does. Some of these new Avengers (Falcon/Wanda) are interesting in their abilities. Thief (Rumlow) is stealing an infectious disease. Rumlow was the main HYDRA soldier from Winter Soldier. The action is a little herky-jerky as far as how it is shot. Well, that ends Rumlow. Wanda is really powerful, but likely just killed a bunch of people. Back to 1991? Young Tony and Howard at odds. Oh - it's a class - that was weird. So where is Pepper? Tony murdered some kid in Sokovia (in Age of Ultron), or was he not able to save him? General Ross (from The Hulk) is back as Sec of State. So this will be a political dissection of whether oversight over The Avengers is needed. Sokovia Accords would put them under supervision. Baron Zemo (HYDRA follower) found the book used to turn Bucky into the Winter Soldier. Vision has a point about power invites conflict. Tony' self-loathing is getting tired. Both sides have good points. We're jumping city to city pretty quickly again. Aww - Agent Carter died. Wow - Agent Carter's niece was CA's neighbor in Winter Soldier. Tony, Rhodey, BW, and Vision all signed the accord.  CA won't sign it. Clint says he's retired. Now to Vienna. First T'Challa and T'Chaka sighting. T'Chaka blown up as he's giving a speech to the U.N, and Bucky appears responsible. T'Challa speaking about Wakanda culture as death not being the end foreshadows the scene in Black Panther where all the former Kings are together in a "heaven" like place. Now Bucharest where Bucky is. CA helps Bucky escape from incoming SWAT. And now Black Panther attacking Bucky to avenge his father. Haven't had many car chases in previous MCU films - nice change. And now Rhodey shows up. Vision trying to figure out what the Mind Stone in his head is. Now to Berlin. Hey - it's Everett Ross (Deputy Task Force Commander) who plays a big role in Black Panther movie. Lot less jokes in this one - more serious film. Oh, so Tony & Pepper are broken up because Tony can't stop being Iron Man. Tony and CA just don't see eye to eye at all - but that's inherent in their make-up. Bucky in shackles is being interrogated by Zemo and an EMP shuts down all power. Zemo reads from the book to put Bucky back in Winter Soldier mode. Bucky could just cover his ears though. Black Panther is way tougher in this film than he is in his own movie. Now Bucky is back to normal after almost drowning. And the reveal that Bucky isn't the only Winter Soldier - that's what the 5 blue IV bags from the beginning were for. That was the scene from the end of Ant-Man. Now to Queens where we see Spider-Man for the first time - Tony recruiting him. Hawkeye is back to help CA and Wanda overpowers Vision. Black Panther's body guard makes an appearance. CA and the niece share a kiss - there's a Springer show in there somewhere. So now the teams are coming together.  Ant-Man taken by Clint. CA, Hawkeye, Ant-Man, Wanda, Falcon, and Bucky on one team. On the other team we have Iron Man, War Machine, BW, Spider-Man, Black Panther, and Vision. Some unnecessary jokes during the big battle that sap the enjoyment. I like Ant-Man character and actor a lot. This fight probably won't help their rep in the eyes of the U.N. since they are destroying an entire airport and everything it contains.  BW helps CA and Bucky escape in the end. Vision tries to hit Falcon w/the Mind Stone but hits Rhodey who crashes and is badly hurt. Lot more story to this than Avengers and even AoU. So Bucky was set-up the whole time. Tony goes to a base where Sec State Ross is keeping the other Avengers (Wanda, Ant-Man, Falcon, Clint). Tony just has Iron Man suits everywhere. So CA, IM, and WS in the Siberian bunker to stop the other Winter Soldiers. So it was Tony's parents in that car crash - fantastic twist - very dark and unexpected. Zemo just wanted to see them tear each other apart - kind of feel bad for him a little. Now that was a legit battle between Tony and CA/WS - no jokes, no soft-play - just straight all-out. See Rhodey trying to rehab - he's paralyzed, but is walking with tech. CA sends Tony a letter bestowing The Avengers unto him, and we see that CA broke the locked up Avengers out of the cells. He sends a phone that he can call any time if needed.

REVIEW:  There's a lot to unpack here.  Not an "Avengers" movie per se, but definitely a compilation of all the players - though they aren't all fighting together for a common goal in this one.  For one, this movie is MUCH more serious than the other Avengers films and most of the MCU films in general.  The jokes are few and far between for much of the film, and they are very much muted in favor of the shroud of political oversight and civilian death that hangs over the film. However, that changes during the big fight when they revert back to juxtaposition during the entire fight sequence that kind of ruins what is actually a pretty good fight scene.  Once that is done, the film goes back to a more serious tone, ending with a fantastic 2-on-1 fight between Iron Man and the Captain America/Bucky duo - there are no jokes or pleasantries or anything like that - it's a borderline death match and it's what we'd like a lot of these fights to be presented as.  The stories cross-cross throughout, ending with a shocking twist (I usually see these coming) regarding Tony's parents.  Beyond the stances of each of the Avengers on the Sokovia Accords, we also get some pertinent info on the absence of Pepper Potts.  There is also a lot of tragedy in this one (which is often avoided for the most part in MCU films) - from the loss of Agent Carter, to the death of King T'Chaka, to the paralyzation of Rhodey, and the now massive rift between the individual Avengers.  The pacing was a bit erratic as the first half of the movie jumped to a different city every 5 minutes - but  the last hour or so was pretty smooth.  Liking the new Avengers like Wanda, Ant-Man, Vision, and Falcon - they bring some new abilities and gadgetry to fights that had become stale.  And Wanda may be the strongest "enhanced" of them all.  The story does try and set the stage for upcoming Black Panther and Spider-Man films, but they don't dwell on that too much.  Overall, this was the best of the compilation Avenger films so far - much better than the first Avengers or Age of Ultron.  The serious and dark tones that purveyed throughout overshadowed the few unbalanced comedic attempts and some of the early jittery pacing.
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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #62 on: April 25, 2018, 09:58:12 pm »
15 - Doctor Strange:  9/10

RUNNING COMMENTARY:  Top notch 3D. Incredible opening scene from start to finish (at the London Sanctum) - THIS is how you do CGI. Why would you have only one man to protect something as important as a sanctum. Love that Kaecilius calls The Ancient One a hypocrite early on - we find out why later.  HANDS, HANDS, HANDS - it's ALL about his hands. Cumberbatch is perfect casting for this role. That surgery scene was intense. Strange is a great doctor, but not a people person - well presented.  Mention Rhodey's spinal crush (that happens in Civil War). Don't text and drive. That was a great crash scene. Such a different superhero film - there is very little in the way of jokes - it's of a very serious nature. This movie clips along at a rapid pace. His arrogance and selfishness is perpetrated wonderfully. I don't think mailing somebody another patient's medical file is exactly legal. The set up is perfect for this - the path he's put on is through diligence and investigation. Mordo shows up in the nick of time. There are tiny bits of humor that fit Strange's personality - but it's few and far between. How does The Ancient One know so much about Strange already? Well, that shut him up. This is SO TRIPPY. The Ancient One sees a lot of Kaecilius in Stephen. Wi-Fi password LOL - the small bits of humor are tight, quick, and on point. The training is thorough and well done - nice to see that he wasn't an instant bad ass - it took time (though we don't know how much). Wong's dead pan reactions are great. So it's taken THIS long for Kaecilius to decipher the stolen pages? Wouldn't he get going on that right away? The CGI transformations are mind-boggling. The sling ring allows one to travel throughout the multi-verse - great item to make long travels easier. Concept of the mirror dimension is really cool. They kind of put the Time Stone (Eye of Agamoto) in a really easy place to grab it - shouldn't something this powerful be locked up or something? That was neat - and gives him the first inkling of Dormammu. Sanctums are London, Hong Kong, and New York. The sanctums produce shields around the world. Well, Dormammu is the destroyer of worlds - that's not good. "I'm out" - that's the reaction I'd have. Again, why is only ONE sorceror protecting a sanctum. Now at New York sanctum he got knocked into. The music that accompanies this is really cool as well. Kaecilius' speech about time being our enemy does make some sense. After being stabbed - the hospital scene is so well done - especially Christine's reactions. Kaecilius can fold space & matter at will - like The Ancient One. Twist - The Ancient One draws power from the dark dimension. At least the trippy background in the short exposition is intoxicating. I'm thinking that fall itself would kill her. That lightning scene was so touching and so poignant. "Death is what gives life meaning" is pretty powerful. So why does the Hong Kong sanctum have so many guardians when the other two had only 1? The end sequence is the best of the MCU films by far. The visuals in the reverse time mode coupled with the so very different final "battle" that isn't just a bunch of punching or weapons being tossed around - genius on Strange's part knowing he can't beat him head to head. Finally Wong laughs. Mordo and Captain America should get together on their high and mighty mountain. Stephen is now the Master of the New York sanctum.   

REVIEW:  This is one of the best MCU films out there.  The special effects and CGI are top drawer, and the 3D in this film is the best I've seen in any film ever.  The story races along, stopping only to explain what is going on, and doing so very well.  Other than Robert Downey Jr as Iron Man, I don't think there's been a better casting than Benedict Cumberbatch as Dr. Strange as he plays the role to perfection.  This is a very different type of superhero film overall - there is very little in the way of jokes - it is much more of the serious nature throughout, and the jokes that are made are off the cuff one-liners that mirror Stephen Strange's personality.  His arrogance and selfishness is portrayed perfectly through the first hour of the film, and we really see his character start to arc over time and eventually become the ultimate altruist.  Now, there were some things in this bizarre film that just didn't make sense.  For one, if these sanctums are so important, why are you guarding them with only ONE sorceror?  Also, the Eye of Agamoto, which contains the Time Stone, is kept in the library at Kamar-Taj with no protection whatsoever.  This is an Infinity Stone that is just out in the open - it's not locked up, it's not even in a case - the relics are better secured than this stone.  Rachal McAdams does a great job of playing the bewildered doctor, and Tilda Swinton is strong as The Ancient One.  The character of Kaecilius is one of the better "bad guys" in the MCU universe, and Dormammu is the ultimate "evil entity".  The final battle between Strange and Dormammu is unlike any we have seen in the MCU universe.  There are barrage of punches or no arsenal of weapons or anything.  It's simply Stephen outthinking everyone else - knowing that he cannot defeat Dormammu one-on-one he catches him in a time loop to save Earth.  Overall, one of the trippiest films in existence, and one of the best comic book movies ever made.  Highly recommended.

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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #63 on: April 26, 2018, 12:08:17 am »
All I have left to rewatch is:

Spider-Man Homecoming
Thor Ragnarok
Black Panther


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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #64 on: April 26, 2018, 08:22:23 am »
All I have left to rewatch is:

Spider-Man Homecoming
Thor Ragnarok
Black Panther
At this rate I would just skip to Ragnarok since the post credits scene directly ties into Infinity War. The other two just take place sometime after Civil War if I remember correctly.

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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #65 on: April 26, 2018, 10:33:27 am »
All I have left to rewatch is:

Spider-Man Homecoming
Thor Ragnarok
Black Panther
At this rate I would just skip to Ragnarok since the post credits scene directly ties into Infinity War. The other two just take place sometime after Civil War if I remember correctly.

Nah ive come this far.  Doing SM today, Ragnarok Friday, then seeing double feature BP and Infinity at the theater on Sunday.

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« Reply #66 on: April 28, 2018, 12:10:38 am »
16 - Spider-Man Homecoming:  2/10

RUNNING COMMENTARY:  Michael Keaton opening movie as a construction guy with a contract to salvage all the rubble from New York - why would some random salvage dude be contracted to clean up wreckage with alien technology - never would happen. Government comes in and takes over. One of his guys took an alien something. Stark is now overseeing the salvage. They also had leftover stuff. 8 years later they have turned that stuff into alien weapons they are selling. Michael Keaton has become Vulture and salvaging his own. So nobody, including Stark, has any clue that this salvage dude is selling alien weapons? And none of these are being used anywhere? Happy is working with Peter Parker thru Stark. Parker is lame. Tony is with Parker in a limo. Parker waiting on next mission (since Civil War). Bad casting on the bully - he looks like somebody who would GET bullied. Stock weird kid friend (usually a girl). Stock fat and/or geeky friend w/no other friends. Man, they made Spider-Man really dorky - he's almost like The Flash in Justice League. So we see first alien weapon that has gone completely unnoticed by everyone - and it just destroyed a bunch of buildings - and still we won't see anybody care. Tony sold Avengers tower and is relocating upstate. Happy is clueless and annoying now. The comedy is more one of ignorance and/or stupidity. God this is dumb. Harrassing Parker over a party - the bully is super-lame. So the bully is a mathlete AND a DJ? LOL.  And, of course, as Peter suits up, he says the blue plume of alien gun that NOBODY ELSE IN THE CITY SEES?  Just selling all these alien guns, but nobody seems to care. Just shooting these huge alien guns through the streets - no worries - license plate readily visible for any camera to see. At least an Iron Man was able to rescue him. Parker is in high school, why is he acting like he's 10? "This is a little below their pay grade?"  Sure, alien weapons that can destroy an entire city - yeah nothing to worry about there. So the bully has the whole party chanting against Parker? So, so lame. Good that these salvagers are high tech engineers of alien matter - that comes in handy. "How many times have I told you not to fire them out in the open?"  So, this has happened a bunch of times before - yet nobody notices and/or cares? Cool disintegration gun though. Training Wheels Protocol LOL. Of course, the fat geeky friend is an IT expert who can hack Stark programs. The Vulture character is so uninteresting as well - though it is funny that he's a bad guy in a bird suit when, in Birdman, he's ripping on himself being a bad guy in a bird suit. Why would the police threaten to shoot Spider-Man? Everyone knows that he's a good guy in town. So lame. Good to give Vulture a moral dilemma regarding Spider-Man given that he saved his daughter. Baby Monitor Protocol - we get it, he's a kid - we fucking get it. No need to be so ham-fisted about it. I do like the little Spider-Man recon robot. God his shit talking is brutally bad. Vulture's costume is pretty cool though. And Iron Man saves the day - he could have ended this whole Vulture thing years ago if he hadn't been so blind and/or apathetic. So the salvage-hacker guy is going to hack Iron Man - fun. Oh, so Tony called the F.B.I. - well I'm sure they'll take care of the alien weapons. So he neutered Spider-Man? So what? Peter was doing his Spider-Man stuff before Stark got involved. Nice twist of having Vulture be Liz's father - not surprising, but good twist nonetheless. Best thing about this movie was the car ride to Prom - only moment that kept my interest. That shock punch is cool. Happy is so useless in this movie. Why not just kill him when he has him dead to rights? Would only take a second to do so. Even their final battle was unremarkable. Oh God - THAT is M.J.? Cool new Avengers HQ. I like that Peter declines - a little character arc there. Hey - Pepper is back. Ha - funny Aunt May saw him.

REVIEW:  This movie is terrible. Peter Parker is a caricature in the vein of The Flash. The friends/side characters are so stock/canned - you have the fat geeky sidekick friend and the weird loner chick.  The humor is of the ignorant or stupid variety.  And the whole concept of the entire film is utterly ridiculous. A salvager that has the know-how to build alien weapons out of elements nobody knows anything about?  A crew that openly shoots and displays powerful alien weapons out in the open, and nobody notices or cares in the least?  A bully who is the least imposing person ever and seems like someone who would be summarily bullied instead of being the bullier?  Happy is totally clueless.  Stark is totally apathetic to the underground sale of alien weapons that could destroy HIS city. The dialogue is clunky and unnatural throughout, and there is no real flow to any of it.  Michael Keaton, who I love, is another stale villain that adds next to nothing to the movie. Happy is so useless and fundamentally stupid in this movie, it's insulting. The last 30 min redeemed it a little bit with the Vulture/Parker conversation in the car as well as the gradual character arc of Peter hammered home by his refusal of Tony's offer to make him an Avenger.  Overall, this was a bad film that had a couple salvageable (yes I went there) moments, but was mostly a forgettable, unnecessary, ridiculous movie that has holes the size of dump trucks and nothing of value on the other end.  The worst of the MCU films - barely beating out Thor 2 for that distinction.

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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #67 on: April 28, 2018, 12:18:16 am »
I agree that Homecoming is thoroughly mediocre, but I can at least remember some of the visual and story beats. Canít say that about The Dark World.

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Re: MCU Chronological Movie Marathon...
« Reply #68 on: April 28, 2018, 12:28:19 am »
I agree that Homecoming is thoroughly mediocre, but I can at least remember some of the visual and story beats. Canít say that about The Dark World.

The Peter Parker character was super-weak imo.

 

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