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Author Topic: Who is Azor Ahai?  (Read 124 times)

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Who is Azor Ahai?
« on: August 31, 2017, 02:07:09 am »
We've got one more season to go, folks. Lets hear these theories.

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Re: Who is Azor Ahai?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2017, 11:26:14 am »
All these options, yet the real twist one was omitted at first. It's good that I can correct such shortcomings.

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Re: Who is Azor Ahai?
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2017, 12:24:17 pm »
I'd support a Theon Azor Ahai, I think his arc could head towards that direction.

At this point anyone except Jon, him being Azor Ahai would be too lackluster, he's already full of twists as a character that one more that is as significant as Azor Ahai is going to be underwhelming.

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Re: Who is Azor Ahai?
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2017, 12:26:41 pm »
I'm surprised Jorah Mormont isn't up there over choices like Cersei and Arya (both of these are obviously not Azor Ahai) as he has some substantial theories to back his potential to become Azor Ahai.

Although given that we're this close to the endgame I don't think he is Azor Ahai considering how little focus he gets nowadays.

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Re: Who is Azor Ahai?
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2017, 04:10:18 pm »
I'm surprised Jorah Mormont isn't up there over choices like Cersei and Arya (both of these are obviously not Azor Ahai) as he has some substantial theories to back his potential to become Azor Ahai.

Although given that we're this close to the endgame I don't think he is Azor Ahai considering how little focus he gets nowadays.

I already mentioned that to me, if he's going to be involved, it would be as a "Nissa Nissa" to Dany's AA (remember, one requires the other), the "loving wife" whose death fuels the Lightbringer (incidentally, that also rules out quite a few names above that don't seem to have anyone (left alive) loving them). He's just someone who would readily sacrifice himself to her once that part of the prophecy became known. It would really make too much sense, and be a kinda "meh" way to resolve it, with no real GOT-twist-level outcry over it compared to just about every other Nissa Nissa candidate (besides my ironic Littlefinger theory, that is). Then again, it would be in keeping with the way "Beyond the Wall" and some other recent episodes have gone. And I know a few people would like the reverse to be true, but that would require Dany to actually love Jorah in a way that's clearly not happening.

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Re: Who is Azor Ahai?
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2017, 04:26:11 pm »
I'm surprised Jorah Mormont isn't up there over choices like Cersei and Arya (both of these are obviously not Azor Ahai) as he has some substantial theories to back his potential to become Azor Ahai.

Although given that we're this close to the endgame I don't think he is Azor Ahai considering how little focus he gets nowadays.

I already mentioned that to me, if he's going to be involved, it would be as a "Nissa Nissa" to Dany's AA (remember, one requires the other), the "loving wife" whose death fuels the Lightbringer. He's just someone who would readily sacrifice himself to her once that part of the prophecy became known. It would really make too much sense, and be a kinda "meh" way to resolve it, with no real GOT-twist-level outcry over it compared to just about every other Nissa Nissa candidate (besides my ironic Littlefinger theory, that is). Then again, it would be in keeping with the way "Beyond the Wall" and some other recent episodes have gone. And I know a few people would like the reverse to be true, but that would require Dany to actually love Jorah in a way that's clearly not happening.

One other thing: this scenario (Dany as Azor Ahai, Jorah as Nissa Nissa sacrifice) might also be the only interpretation of the prophecy (not counting the scenarios that outright defy it) that allows for the wheel to be broken in the end. Simply put: the two are diametrically opposed to each other. If the latter is about the hope the people can abandon the old ways, the former is about being trapped in them, and having to retrace the same thousand-old steps, having to give the same cruel sacrifices regardless of how much the world may have changed. I don't see how the last season could first show Jon killing Dany or Sansa or whatever to save the world, and then pivot to Iron Throne being melted down (like Diego wants) and the named survivors proudly proclaiming they have broken the wheel.

If anything, I would lean towards the breaking of the wheel always being a lie, the common people's dream Dany took advantage of while never being good enough to achieve it (thus being in keeping with her consistent strategic failures). The knowledge that world won't be destroyed but the people will still fight and kill each other over that throne in the future might be what was intended as "bittersweet". However, the writers also said they didn't want the ending to leave potential for sequels, and breaking of the wheel certainly fulfils this condition better, so who knows.

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Re: Who is Azor Ahai?
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2017, 07:09:46 pm »
Ten bucks says that Azor Ahai in the show will be different from the books. I'm starting to think that the showrunners have deliberately altered the series so as to not spoil the next two novels, and that death in S7E7 reinforced this belief in my mind. No way is that character going out in that manner in the books. This would explain the omission of a whole lot of things (Jon's warging, the Dornish master plan, etc). It's actually pretty clever the more I think about it. It takes some serious creativity to take the first half of an existing story in an entirely different direction than was intended and still make it satisfying.

I could be wrong, though. We shall see.

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Re: Who is Azor Ahai?
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2017, 09:52:24 pm »
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