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Author Topic: Alfie Evans case  (Read 198 times)

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Re: Alfie Evans case
« on: April 25, 2018, 04:33:12 pm »
This has nothing to do with universal healthcare Dylan...even says what it does have to deal with in the article.

The National Health Care service is based on universal health care principles.  The GOVERNMENT is determining that this child cannot seek treatment elsewhere.  Universal health care in this country would be a government entity.  My point stands.

No it doesn't man. It really doesn't. We see these types of cases here too. Albeit in different ways, it has to do with the child's rights vs parents rights. Look at my previous post.

Yes it does man.  It really does.  It's government overreach imo.  To say "this child will die with us and cannot be taken elsewhere to be cared for" is government overreach.

That literally has NOTHING to do with universal healthcare. It's the COURTS not the type of healthcare the child is receiving. The courts in Britain argue that when a child is too young, such as in this case, the government has the rights to do what they what with the child not the parents. This is a JUDICIAL matter, not a universal healthcare one.

Dude, you are missing my point...once the GOVERNMENT gains control of health care in its entirety, THIS is the kind of shit that happens.  Universal Health Care is GOVERNMENT controlled.  I do not want the entire health care industry controlled by the GOVERNMENT.

Does that spell it out for you enough?

Yeah but there is literally no correlation found here between those two things. You're arguing that this case supports your viewpoint when in reality you're reaching pretty hard here. These cases happen here too in the US where we DON'T have universal healthcare. I'm not arguing your logic at all, I'm arguing that this case doesn't make sense for your argument.

Name a case here where our government ruled that a child was forbidden to be taken elsewhere to seek treatment when they are still able to be living off life support.

That wasn't my point Dylan. My point is that it's the judicial system that is brought up in the case of Alfie Evans. It's different here obviously because we don't have the same laws. But we do have laws that protect a child from what the parents want for them in terms of health. There was a case in which a child's parents wanted them off medication for a disease because it was against their religion. The doctors gave treatment to the child regardless and the court ruled against the parents in this case because the child was too young to have a say in it. It's the same concept in this case, but the only difference is that this is Britain and they have different laws.

Just because they have universal healthcare and different laws then we do doesn't mean the two correlate.

 

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