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Let's talk about this court case
« on: June 17, 2017, 02:20:56 pm »
Has anyone been keeping up on the story about the girl who encouraged her boyfriend to kill himself? She was found guilty yesterday, in what might be the worst verdict I've seen in my lifetime. This girl could end up going to jail for longer than that preppy Stanford rapist. Longer than Bill Cosby. What the hell?

Am I missing something here? This verdict implies that words themselves were the murder weapon in this case. It's a borderline Orwellian way of twisting the law in order to pass down a guilty verdict. What's next? If Dom Cobb kills himself, or if Aaron slits his wrists, are we all going to be brought up on murder charges?

This is a pretty despicable violation of free speech. Even worse, it implies that the kid who killed himself was essentially not responsible for his own actions. There's a lot of slippery slope potential here. The judge should probably kill himself, tbh.

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Re: Let's talk about this court case
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2017, 02:32:21 pm »
Too bad so sad.  Don't care about anyone stupid enough to text a suicidal person to commit suicide.  I don't recall any of us telling Aaron or Dom to commit suicide.
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2017, 02:35:17 pm »
Too bad so sad.  Don't care about anyone stupid enough to text a person to commit suicide.  I don't recall any of us telling Aaron or Dom to commit suicide.

I'm not denying that she's a bad person. I'm just saying that this sets a very dangerous precedent. As soon as words can be legally defined as weapons, legislation can be passed to control them. And no one will care, so long as it's done with the facade of protecting some suicidal retard's feelings.

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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2017, 02:57:44 pm »
Too bad so sad.  Don't care about anyone stupid enough to text a person to commit suicide.  I don't recall any of us telling Aaron or Dom to commit suicide.

I'm not denying that she's a bad person. I'm just saying that this sets a very dangerous precedent. As soon as words can be legally defined as weapons, legislation can be passed to control them. And no one will care, so long as it's done with the facade of protecting some suicidal retard's feelings.

Calm down, retard.  No one is gonna come at you for Dom's death.
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Re: Let's talk about this court case
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2017, 04:35:07 pm »
Am I missing something here? This verdict implies that words themselves were the murder weapon in this case. It's a borderline Orwellian way of twisting the law in order to pass down a guilty verdict. What's next? If Dom Cobb kills himself, or if Aaron slits his wrists, are we all going to be brought up on murder charges?
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2017, 04:35:24 pm »
Too bad so sad.  Don't care about anyone stupid enough to text a person to commit suicide.  I don't recall any of us telling Aaron or Dom to commit suicide.

I'm not denying that she's a bad person. I'm just saying that this sets a very dangerous precedent. As soon as words can be legally defined as weapons, legislation can be passed to control them. And no one will care, so long as it's done with the facade of protecting some suicidal retard's feelings.

Calm down, retard.  No one is gonna come at you for Dom's death.
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2017, 04:42:51 pm »
Too bad so sad.  Don't care about anyone stupid enough to text a person to commit suicide.  I don't recall any of us telling Aaron or Dom to commit suicide.

I'm not denying that she's a bad person. I'm just saying that this sets a very dangerous precedent. As soon as words can be legally defined as weapons, legislation can be passed to control them. And no one will care, so long as it's done with the facade of protecting some suicidal retard's feelings.

Calm down, retard.  No one is gonna come at you for Dom's death.
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Re: Let's talk about this court case
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2017, 04:43:36 pm »
Too bad so sad.  Don't care about anyone stupid enough to text a person to commit suicide.  I don't recall any of us telling Aaron or Dom to commit suicide.

I'm not denying that she's a bad person. I'm just saying that this sets a very dangerous precedent. As soon as words can be legally defined as weapons, legislation can be passed to control them. And no one will care, so long as it's done with the facade of protecting some suicidal retard's feelings.

Calm down, retard.  No one is gonna come at you for Dom's death.
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2017, 04:45:17 pm »
Too bad so sad.  Don't care about anyone stupid enough to text a person to commit suicide.  I don't recall any of us telling Aaron or Dom to commit suicide.

I'm not denying that she's a bad person. I'm just saying that this sets a very dangerous precedent. As soon as words can be legally defined as weapons, legislation can be passed to control them. And no one will care, so long as it's done with the facade of protecting some suicidal retard's feelings.

Calm down, retard.  No one is gonna come at you for Dom's death.
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Re: Let's talk about this court case
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2017, 05:38:21 pm »
Has anyone been keeping up on the story about the girl who encouraged her boyfriend to kill himself? She was found guilty yesterday, in what might be the worst verdict I've seen in my lifetime. This girl could end up going to jail for longer than that preppy Stanford rapist. Longer than Bill Cosby. What the hell?

Am I missing something here? This verdict implies that words themselves were the murder weapon in this case. It's a borderline Orwellian way of twisting the law in order to pass down a guilty verdict. What's next? If Dom Cobb kills himself, or if Aaron slits his wrists, are we all going to be brought up on murder charges?

This is a pretty despicable violation of free speech. Even worse, it implies that the kid who killed himself was essentially not responsible for his own actions. There's a lot of slippery slope potential here. The judge should probably kill himself, tbh.
Idk, just because Brock Turner's sentence was far too light doesn't mean she doesn't deserve punishment. From what I read, she was actively encouraging this dude to kill himself as he was talking about doing it, and then didn't report it or anything after he did (actually sent more texts to try and cover her own back). Fucked up stuff, and I'd say that constitutes manslaughter by definition.

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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2017, 05:54:54 pm »
Has anyone been keeping up on the story about the girl who encouraged her boyfriend to kill himself? She was found guilty yesterday, in what might be the worst verdict I've seen in my lifetime. This girl could end up going to jail for longer than that preppy Stanford rapist. Longer than Bill Cosby. What the hell?

Am I missing something here? This verdict implies that words themselves were the murder weapon in this case. It's a borderline Orwellian way of twisting the law in order to pass down a guilty verdict. What's next? If Dom Cobb kills himself, or if Aaron slits his wrists, are we all going to be brought up on murder charges?

This is a pretty despicable violation of free speech. Even worse, it implies that the kid who killed himself was essentially not responsible for his own actions. There's a lot of slippery slope potential here. The judge should probably kill himself, tbh.
Idk, just because Brock Turner's sentence was far too light doesn't mean she doesn't deserve punishment. From what I read, she was actively encouraging this dude to kill himself as he was talking about doing it, and then didn't report it or anything after he did (actually sent more texts to try and cover her own back). Fucked up stuff, and I'd say that constitutes manslaughter by definition.

Uh... well, since manslaughter is an act of killing, and she didn't kill the guy, it doesn't constitute manslaughter "by definition." And because of that, there's no way to charge her for it. How was this case even brought before a judge? There's literally no legal precedent for this whatsoever.

What was the murder weapon in this situation? A phone? Words? Bullshit. Words don't kill. There's a movie called The Fisher King with Jeff Bridges that touches on this subject. Bridges plays a radio shock jock who rants about upper-class rich people, and he causes some crazy guy to go shoot up a restaurant. Now, was Bridges morally culpable? Yes. Legally? Absolutely not. You can't legislate against people being assholes. It's a free speech violation.

If you say that this girl killed this guy, you're essentially saying that the kid was not responsible for his own actions. I'm so sick and tired of the cult of victimhood that's sprung up in this country. People make decisions for themselves. This girl is not responsible for anything this guy did. She didn't hold a gun to his head. She wasn't even present at the time. It's an enormous miscarriage of justice.

Don't get me wrong, I think she should be punished. I think her parents should send her to boot camp or something. I think her friends should ostracize her and her teachers should refuse to look her in the eye. But should she go to jail? Absolutely not. I'd have a hard time justifying sentencing her to community service, to be honest. Anything past that is the work of jackbooted authoritarian nanny-state thought police who are frothing at the mouth looking for someone to blame for this ordeal.
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Re: Let's talk about this court case
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2017, 10:26:55 pm »
Has anyone been keeping up on the story about the girl who encouraged her boyfriend to kill himself? She was found guilty yesterday, in what might be the worst verdict I've seen in my lifetime. This girl could end up going to jail for longer than that preppy Stanford rapist. Longer than Bill Cosby. What the hell?

Am I missing something here? This verdict implies that words themselves were the murder weapon in this case. It's a borderline Orwellian way of twisting the law in order to pass down a guilty verdict. What's next? If Dom Cobb kills himself, or if Aaron slits his wrists, are we all going to be brought up on murder charges?

This is a pretty despicable violation of free speech. Even worse, it implies that the kid who killed himself was essentially not responsible for his own actions. There's a lot of slippery slope potential here. The judge should probably kill himself, tbh.
Idk, just because Brock Turner's sentence was far too light doesn't mean she doesn't deserve punishment. From what I read, she was actively encouraging this dude to kill himself as he was talking about doing it, and then didn't report it or anything after he did (actually sent more texts to try and cover her own back). Fucked up stuff, and I'd say that constitutes manslaughter by definition.

Uh... well, since manslaughter is an act of killing, and she didn't kill the guy, it doesn't constitute manslaughter "by definition." And because of that, there's no way to charge her for it. How was this case even brought before a judge? There's literally no legal precedent for this whatsoever.

What was the murder weapon in this situation? A phone? Words? Bullshit. Words don't kill. There's a movie called The Fisher King with Jeff Bridges that touches on this subject. Bridges plays a radio shock jock who rants about upper-class rich people, and he causes some crazy guy to go shoot up a restaurant. Now, was Bridges morally culpable? Yes. Legally? Absolutely not. You can't legislate against people being assholes. It's a free speech violation.

If you say that this girl killed this guy, you're essentially saying that the kid was not responsible for his own actions. I'm so sick and tired of the cult of victimhood that's sprung up in this country. People make decisions for themselves. This girl is not responsible for anything this guy did. She didn't hold a gun to his head. She wasn't even present at the time. It's an enormous miscarriage of justice.

Don't get me wrong, I think she should be punished. I think her parents should send her to boot camp or something. I think her friends should ostracize her and her teachers should refuse to look her in the eye. But should she go to jail? Absolutely not. I'd have a hard time justifying sentencing her to community service, to be honest. Anything past that is the work of jackbooted authoritarian nanny-state thought police who are frothing at the mouth looking for someone to blame for this ordeal.

Okay, but the fact that she was on the phone listening and knowing someone is actively dying doesn't concern you?  She alerted no one and because of that a person is dead and has caused emotional distress to an entire family.  She is culpable for a crime and deserves a jail sentencing.  Whether she was sentenced for the right crime is left up to debate, but I have no qualms with her being sentenced to jail. 
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2017, 10:46:14 pm »
Has anyone been keeping up on the story about the girl who encouraged her boyfriend to kill himself? She was found guilty yesterday, in what might be the worst verdict I've seen in my lifetime. This girl could end up going to jail for longer than that preppy Stanford rapist. Longer than Bill Cosby. What the hell?

Am I missing something here? This verdict implies that words themselves were the murder weapon in this case. It's a borderline Orwellian way of twisting the law in order to pass down a guilty verdict. What's next? If Dom Cobb kills himself, or if Aaron slits his wrists, are we all going to be brought up on murder charges?

This is a pretty despicable violation of free speech. Even worse, it implies that the kid who killed himself was essentially not responsible for his own actions. There's a lot of slippery slope potential here. The judge should probably kill himself, tbh.
Idk, just because Brock Turner's sentence was far too light doesn't mean she doesn't deserve punishment. From what I read, she was actively encouraging this dude to kill himself as he was talking about doing it, and then didn't report it or anything after he did (actually sent more texts to try and cover her own back). Fucked up stuff, and I'd say that constitutes manslaughter by definition.

Uh... well, since manslaughter is an act of killing, and she didn't kill the guy, it doesn't constitute manslaughter "by definition." And because of that, there's no way to charge her for it. How was this case even brought before a judge? There's literally no legal precedent for this whatsoever.

What was the murder weapon in this situation? A phone? Words? Bullshit. Words don't kill. There's a movie called The Fisher King with Jeff Bridges that touches on this subject. Bridges plays a radio shock jock who rants about upper-class rich people, and he causes some crazy guy to go shoot up a restaurant. Now, was Bridges morally culpable? Yes. Legally? Absolutely not. You can't legislate against people being assholes. It's a free speech violation.

If you say that this girl killed this guy, you're essentially saying that the kid was not responsible for his own actions. I'm so sick and tired of the cult of victimhood that's sprung up in this country. People make decisions for themselves. This girl is not responsible for anything this guy did. She didn't hold a gun to his head. She wasn't even present at the time. It's an enormous miscarriage of justice.

Don't get me wrong, I think she should be punished. I think her parents should send her to boot camp or something. I think her friends should ostracize her and her teachers should refuse to look her in the eye. But should she go to jail? Absolutely not. I'd have a hard time justifying sentencing her to community service, to be honest. Anything past that is the work of jackbooted authoritarian nanny-state thought police who are frothing at the mouth looking for someone to blame for this ordeal.

Okay, but the fact that she was on the phone listening and knowing someone is actively dying doesn't concern you?  She alerted no one and because of that a person is dead and has caused emotional distress to an entire family.  She is culpable for a crime and deserves a jail sentencing.  Whether she was sentenced for the right crime is left up to debate, but I have no qualms with her being sentenced to jail. 

This is pretty dumb and you know it. In the US you have absolutely no obligation to help a dying person on the street let alone over the phone. And the guy wasn't coerced into doing it, he chose to do it in the end she didn't make him do it. Her saying to him that he should get back in didn't kill him, it was him choosing to get back in the car that lead to his death.
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2017, 10:49:30 pm »
By this logic, a person telling someone on a social media site to commit a crime means they also had a hand in it if it ends up happening and deserve to be punished. Even if it was a joke.

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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2017, 10:57:52 pm »
Has anyone been keeping up on the story about the girl who encouraged her boyfriend to kill himself? She was found guilty yesterday, in what might be the worst verdict I've seen in my lifetime. This girl could end up going to jail for longer than that preppy Stanford rapist. Longer than Bill Cosby. What the hell?

Am I missing something here? This verdict implies that words themselves were the murder weapon in this case. It's a borderline Orwellian way of twisting the law in order to pass down a guilty verdict. What's next? If Dom Cobb kills himself, or if Aaron slits his wrists, are we all going to be brought up on murder charges?

This is a pretty despicable violation of free speech. Even worse, it implies that the kid who killed himself was essentially not responsible for his own actions. There's a lot of slippery slope potential here. The judge should probably kill himself, tbh.
Idk, just because Brock Turner's sentence was far too light doesn't mean she doesn't deserve punishment. From what I read, she was actively encouraging this dude to kill himself as he was talking about doing it, and then didn't report it or anything after he did (actually sent more texts to try and cover her own back). Fucked up stuff, and I'd say that constitutes manslaughter by definition.

Uh... well, since manslaughter is an act of killing, and she didn't kill the guy, it doesn't constitute manslaughter "by definition." And because of that, there's no way to charge her for it. How was this case even brought before a judge? There's literally no legal precedent for this whatsoever.

What was the murder weapon in this situation? A phone? Words? Bullshit. Words don't kill. There's a movie called The Fisher King with Jeff Bridges that touches on this subject. Bridges plays a radio shock jock who rants about upper-class rich people, and he causes some crazy guy to go shoot up a restaurant. Now, was Bridges morally culpable? Yes. Legally? Absolutely not. You can't legislate against people being assholes. It's a free speech violation.

If you say that this girl killed this guy, you're essentially saying that the kid was not responsible for his own actions. I'm so sick and tired of the cult of victimhood that's sprung up in this country. People make decisions for themselves. This girl is not responsible for anything this guy did. She didn't hold a gun to his head. She wasn't even present at the time. It's an enormous miscarriage of justice.

Don't get me wrong, I think she should be punished. I think her parents should send her to boot camp or something. I think her friends should ostracize her and her teachers should refuse to look her in the eye. But should she go to jail? Absolutely not. I'd have a hard time justifying sentencing her to community service, to be honest. Anything past that is the work of jackbooted authoritarian nanny-state thought police who are frothing at the mouth looking for someone to blame for this ordeal.

Okay, but the fact that she was on the phone listening and knowing someone is actively dying doesn't concern you?  She alerted no one and because of that a person is dead and has caused emotional distress to an entire family.  She is culpable for a crime and deserves a jail sentencing.  Whether she was sentenced for the right crime is left up to debate, but I have no qualms with her being sentenced to jail. 

This is pretty dumb and you know it. In the US you have absolutely no obligation to help a dying person on the street let alone over the phone. And the guy wasn't coerced into doing it, he chose to do it in the end she didn't make him do it. Her saying to him that he should get back in didn't kill him, it was him choosing to get back in the car that lead to his death.

Frank, perhaps Google what you're talking about before you speak.  The only cases in which you are not liable to help are if you are not in any way the cause of the predicament or if you have no special relationship with the victim.  She definitely is indeed considered to have a special relationship to the victim.  She is obligated to help.
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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2017, 10:58:03 pm »
Has anyone been keeping up on the story about the girl who encouraged her boyfriend to kill himself? She was found guilty yesterday, in what might be the worst verdict I've seen in my lifetime. This girl could end up going to jail for longer than that preppy Stanford rapist. Longer than Bill Cosby. What the hell?

Am I missing something here? This verdict implies that words themselves were the murder weapon in this case. It's a borderline Orwellian way of twisting the law in order to pass down a guilty verdict. What's next? If Dom Cobb kills himself, or if Aaron slits his wrists, are we all going to be brought up on murder charges?

This is a pretty despicable violation of free speech. Even worse, it implies that the kid who killed himself was essentially not responsible for his own actions. There's a lot of slippery slope potential here. The judge should probably kill himself, tbh.
Idk, just because Brock Turner's sentence was far too light doesn't mean she doesn't deserve punishment. From what I read, she was actively encouraging this dude to kill himself as he was talking about doing it, and then didn't report it or anything after he did (actually sent more texts to try and cover her own back). Fucked up stuff, and I'd say that constitutes manslaughter by definition.

Uh... well, since manslaughter is an act of killing, and she didn't kill the guy, it doesn't constitute manslaughter "by definition." And because of that, there's no way to charge her for it. How was this case even brought before a judge? There's literally no legal precedent for this whatsoever.

What was the murder weapon in this situation? A phone? Words? Bullshit. Words don't kill. There's a movie called The Fisher King with Jeff Bridges that touches on this subject. Bridges plays a radio shock jock who rants about upper-class rich people, and he causes some crazy guy to go shoot up a restaurant. Now, was Bridges morally culpable? Yes. Legally? Absolutely not. You can't legislate against people being assholes. It's a free speech violation.

If you say that this girl killed this guy, you're essentially saying that the kid was not responsible for his own actions. I'm so sick and tired of the cult of victimhood that's sprung up in this country. People make decisions for themselves. This girl is not responsible for anything this guy did. She didn't hold a gun to his head. She wasn't even present at the time. It's an enormous miscarriage of justice.

Don't get me wrong, I think she should be punished. I think her parents should send her to boot camp or something. I think her friends should ostracize her and her teachers should refuse to look her in the eye. But should she go to jail? Absolutely not. I'd have a hard time justifying sentencing her to community service, to be honest. Anything past that is the work of jackbooted authoritarian nanny-state thought police who are frothing at the mouth looking for someone to blame for this ordeal.

Okay, but the fact that she was on the phone listening and knowing someone is actively dying doesn't concern you?  She alerted no one and because of that a person is dead and has caused emotional distress to an entire family.  She is culpable for a crime and deserves a jail sentencing.  Whether she was sentenced for the right crime is left up to debate, but I have no qualms with her being sentenced to jail. 

Of course it concerns me. If she was my daughter, I'd disown her. She's probably got some psychological disorder though, either depression or some degree of sociopathy. That makes me a little more sympathetic than I think most people are being.

I'm no legal expert, so tell me-- exactly what crime should she be charged with? Reckless endangerment? Maybe, but she wasn't present in order to directly place the guy in a harmful situation. Even still, that's not nearly as serious a crime as manslaughter. The question here is: did her words kill him? Of course not.

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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2017, 11:00:20 pm »
By this logic, a person telling someone on a social media site to commit a crime means they also had a hand in it if it ends up happening and deserve to be punished. Even if it was a joke.

That is two different cases, faggot.  This girl knew he would actively kill himself because of her words.  She knew weight behind her words.  Someone making a joke and then a person committing a crime doesn't have the same weight because the person making the joke didn't have intent to have the crime happen. 
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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2017, 11:05:19 pm »
Has anyone been keeping up on the story about the girl who encouraged her boyfriend to kill himself? She was found guilty yesterday, in what might be the worst verdict I've seen in my lifetime. This girl could end up going to jail for longer than that preppy Stanford rapist. Longer than Bill Cosby. What the hell?

Am I missing something here? This verdict implies that words themselves were the murder weapon in this case. It's a borderline Orwellian way of twisting the law in order to pass down a guilty verdict. What's next? If Dom Cobb kills himself, or if Aaron slits his wrists, are we all going to be brought up on murder charges?

This is a pretty despicable violation of free speech. Even worse, it implies that the kid who killed himself was essentially not responsible for his own actions. There's a lot of slippery slope potential here. The judge should probably kill himself, tbh.
Idk, just because Brock Turner's sentence was far too light doesn't mean she doesn't deserve punishment. From what I read, she was actively encouraging this dude to kill himself as he was talking about doing it, and then didn't report it or anything after he did (actually sent more texts to try and cover her own back). Fucked up stuff, and I'd say that constitutes manslaughter by definition.

Uh... well, since manslaughter is an act of killing, and she didn't kill the guy, it doesn't constitute manslaughter "by definition." And because of that, there's no way to charge her for it. How was this case even brought before a judge? There's literally no legal precedent for this whatsoever.

What was the murder weapon in this situation? A phone? Words? Bullshit. Words don't kill. There's a movie called The Fisher King with Jeff Bridges that touches on this subject. Bridges plays a radio shock jock who rants about upper-class rich people, and he causes some crazy guy to go shoot up a restaurant. Now, was Bridges morally culpable? Yes. Legally? Absolutely not. You can't legislate against people being assholes. It's a free speech violation.

If you say that this girl killed this guy, you're essentially saying that the kid was not responsible for his own actions. I'm so sick and tired of the cult of victimhood that's sprung up in this country. People make decisions for themselves. This girl is not responsible for anything this guy did. She didn't hold a gun to his head. She wasn't even present at the time. It's an enormous miscarriage of justice.

Don't get me wrong, I think she should be punished. I think her parents should send her to boot camp or something. I think her friends should ostracize her and her teachers should refuse to look her in the eye. But should she go to jail? Absolutely not. I'd have a hard time justifying sentencing her to community service, to be honest. Anything past that is the work of jackbooted authoritarian nanny-state thought police who are frothing at the mouth looking for someone to blame for this ordeal.

Okay, but the fact that she was on the phone listening and knowing someone is actively dying doesn't concern you?  She alerted no one and because of that a person is dead and has caused emotional distress to an entire family.  She is culpable for a crime and deserves a jail sentencing.  Whether she was sentenced for the right crime is left up to debate, but I have no qualms with her being sentenced to jail. 

Of course it concerns me. If she was my daughter, I'd disown her. She's probably got some psychological disorder though, either depression or some degree of sociopathy. That makes me a little more sympathetic than I think most people are being.

I'm no legal expert, so tell me-- exactly what crime should she be charged with? Reckless endangerment? Maybe, but she wasn't present in order to directly place the guy in a harmful situation. Even still, that's not nearly as serious a crime as manslaughter. The question here is: did her words kill him? Of course not.

She assisted in his suicide by telling him the method to carry it out.  So I believe an assisted suicide charge would be much more suitable. 
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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2017, 11:15:02 pm »
By this logic, a person telling someone on a social media site to commit a crime means they also had a hand in it if it ends up happening and deserve to be punished. Even if it was a joke.

That is two different cases, faggot.  This girl knew he would actively kill himself because of her words.  She knew weight behind her words.  Someone making a joke and then a person committing a crime doesn't have the same weight because the person making the joke didn't have intent to have the crime happen. 

That's not the way the law works. Weight has nothing to do with it. Just because one person is joking around doesn't make him/her any less liable to be prosecuted to the fullest extent when compared to a person wasn't joking around, they're both treated equally because by that logic they both should have known better. You don't get special treatment because you were joking.

And no, you're wrong, she didn't have a special relationship with the victim (at least as it is defined under the duty to rescue tort). In most states, the status of being boyfriend and girlfriend means next to nothing when it comes to law.

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Re: Let's talk about this court case
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2017, 11:19:39 pm »
By this logic, a person telling someone on a social media site to commit a crime means they also had a hand in it if it ends up happening and deserve to be punished. Even if it was a joke.

That is two different cases, faggot.  This girl knew he would actively kill himself because of her words.  She knew weight behind her words.  Someone making a joke and then a person committing a crime doesn't have the same weight because the person making the joke didn't have intent to have the crime happen. 

That's not the way the law works. Weight has nothing to do with it. Just because one person is joking around doesn't make him/her any less liable to be prosecuted to the fullest extent when compared to a person wasn't joking around, they're both treated equally because by that logic they both should have known better. You don't get special treatment because you were joking.

Whoa big boy.  Calm down.  Did you wet your diapers?  Nice dodge there, fuckwit
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