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After Flynn, Comey, Bannon, Priebus, Spicer, Scaramucci, Gorka, Price, Hicks, Cohn, Tillerson, McMaster, Ryan, Pruitt, and Haley who will be eliminated next on The Presidential Apprentice?

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Author Topic: The Trump Presidency Thread  (Read 3791 times)

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Re: The Trump Presidency Thread
« Reply #300 on: September 07, 2018, 05:45:53 pm »
L O D E S T A R

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Re: The Trump Presidency Thread
« Reply #301 on: September 24, 2018, 12:36:54 pm »
Holy shit Donny, do it! I've had Rosenstein since January!

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Re: The Trump Presidency Thread
« Reply #302 on: September 24, 2018, 04:39:56 pm »
Holy shit Donny, do it! I've had Rosenstein since January!

Honestly, I no longer care much about this particular soap opera. I am more interested in the Kavanaugh thing, and the...recent developments associated with it. Thoughts on that, anyone?

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« Reply #303 on: September 25, 2018, 12:52:55 am »
Holy shit Donny, do it! I've had Rosenstein since January!

Honestly, I no longer care much about this particular soap opera. I am more interested in the Kavanaugh thing, and the...recent developments associated with it. Thoughts on that, anyone?
I suppose weíll have to see what happens at the hearings between him and Ford, but unless thereís some undeniable evidence itíll probably just be a straight line party vote (or Pence serves as a tie breaker if someone like Susan Collins or Jeff Flake breaks with the GOP on the vote). I donít know whether the prospect of him getting confirmed or the actual act will galavanize the Dems more (though I think the hysteria over whether Roe would be overturned is excessive, since everyone knows that reversing it would most definitely cost the Republicans both houses and the presidency come 2020).

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Re: The Trump Presidency Thread
« Reply #304 on: September 25, 2018, 04:11:06 am »
Holy shit Donny, do it! I've had Rosenstein since January!

Honestly, I no longer care much about this particular soap opera. I am more interested in the Kavanaugh thing, and the...recent developments associated with it. Thoughts on that, anyone?

I don't believe her. I've tried to be nice about this, but I'm done. The obviousness of the political timing, coupled with the fact that no one can corroborate her story, makes it easily dismissable. Even if it's true, why bother making the accusation with literally no proof?

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Re: The Trump Presidency Thread
« Reply #305 on: September 25, 2018, 05:03:34 pm »
Holy shit Donny, do it! I've had Rosenstein since January!

Honestly, I no longer care much about this particular soap opera. I am more interested in the Kavanaugh thing, and the...recent developments associated with it. Thoughts on that, anyone?

I don't believe her. I've tried to be nice about this, but I'm done. The obviousness of the political timing, coupled with the fact that no one can corroborate her story, makes it easily dismissable. Even if it's true, why bother making the accusation with literally no proof?

Well, in your country at least, you happen to be in the minority on this one: even Fox News poll found that more people believe her than him.

Everything to do with this nomination is pretty morally murky, really. On paper, the idea of an experienced judge serving out decades with an exemplary record, and being rewarded for it with a nomination to the highest court, through a likely recommendation of his predecessor, is an appealing one, regardless of who the president is. You have probably all seen the argument that RBG and Breyer were overwhelmingly confirmed and received many Republican votes in spite of their clear ideology, so the hostility towards him is historically abnormal.

Then again, the same argument was also made for Hillary ("most qualified candidate in history", remember?), so in a way, it can be pretty ironic for some supposed centrists on either side to support one but not the other. And in both cases, the appeal of each just melts away the closer you look at them in life. Again, I was comparatively sympathetic towards him, but you have to admit, this robotic interview does him no favours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOSzjshs1fE

To be fair, an average, innocent person may not have done much better if hit with something like this two weeks before potentially getting his dream job. On the other hand, a future SCOTUS justice is not meant to be an average person either.

Though, I do wonder what happens if he were to get hypothetically rejected. I mean, even Vox, of all places, says that the Senate map is horrible for Democrats (20 seats to defend vs. 6), and several of them are in bad place already, and will be in an even worse one if they reject Kavanaugh. If GOP ends up picking up Senate seats, what's to stop Trump nominating Amy Coney Barrett (there's no way there'll be an accusation against her, right?) and then see Roe vs. Wade overturned for sure?

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Re: The Trump Presidency Thread
« Reply #306 on: September 28, 2018, 04:47:08 pm »
OK, holy shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psp7JJoKb7o

You know, I used to think that at least the Manchin guy from West Virginia was going to vote for him out of all the Dems (since he now regrets endorsing Hillary, etc.). There's no way I can see that now. I am not even talking about the accusations - the way he's now openly blaming the Clintons and "millions of dollars from left-wing groups" seems ridiculously partisan for a person hoping to occupy this position. Moreover, he should be the last person to complain about this, since just about everything he said in the video above  applies equally to Starr's efforts against Clinton he took part in.

Really, this utterly demolishes the whole bipartisanship argument advanced on Quora by John Cate and even a few liberals. All those column inches about his experience and judicial philosophy and what not that I stupidly read when I tried making an effort to be more "balanced" a while ago (for what now seems no discernible reason) look so hollow now. Not even the argument that someone worse like Mike Lee could have been nominated (and might be nominated in his place) seems particularly weighty any more. This whole performance was close to something I would expect from the wilder Duma members, though even they would probably not talk about beer so much.

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Re: The Trump Presidency Thread
« Reply #307 on: October 07, 2018, 07:02:02 am »
You know, I used to think that at least the Manchin guy from West Virginia was going to vote for him out of all the Dems (since he now regrets endorsing Hillary, etc.). There's no way I can see that now.

OK, my earlier instinct was right on this one. It's still kinda funny that he voted for him, even though he's leading in his race, while several others who losing in the polls ultimately held out.

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Re: The Trump Presidency Thread
« Reply #308 on: October 09, 2018, 05:27:33 pm »
Holy shit Donny, do it! I've had Rosenstein since January!

Tough luck, it's Haley, and she wasn't even on your poll.

 

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