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Favorite Kurosawa Films
« on: July 19, 2016, 12:27:20 pm »
I just watched RedLetterMedia's Ghostbusters remake review, so... I'm going to retreat further into my hidey-hole of good filmmaking and cocoon myself in the wonderful world of Kurosawa.

There was a time when I'd have said The Hidden Fortress was my favorite Kurosawa film, but nowadays I'm leaning towards Seven Samurai (as evidenced by the banner for this board). That movie is just incredible. Probably features my favorite Toshiro Mifune performance other than Rashomon.

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Re: Favorite Kurosawa Films
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2016, 12:31:53 pm »
I've always been interested by Kurosawa's work for a long time. Maybe I'll rent The Hidden Fortress in my University library one day.

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Re: Favorite Kurosawa Films
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2016, 01:08:52 pm »
I've only seen 3 of his films: Rashomon, High & Low, and Ran. Ran is my favorite of those three.

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Re: Favorite Kurosawa Films
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2016, 02:27:13 pm »
Yojimbo was pretty great.
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Re: Favorite Kurosawa Films
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2016, 02:28:54 pm »
I've only seen 3 of his films: Rashomon, High & Low, and Ran. Ran is my favorite of those three.

Ran's good. It's the first film of his I saw though, so I don't remember it too well. You should see Seven Samurai, John. I think you'd appreciate how much it has influenced modern action films.
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Re: Favorite Kurosawa Films
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2016, 03:36:08 pm »
I want to take a look at his movies, but I'm planning to wait till the Criterion/TCM streaming service to arrive, as they'll probably show some of his work there. I would like to start with Ran and Seven Samurai.

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Re: Favorite Kurosawa Films
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2016, 04:54:59 pm »
Yojimbo is king, simple as that. (roughly #6-8 in my top ten)
Seven Samurai is a film that seems nowhere near as long as it is. I can stop and watch it whenever.
Throne of Blood is in my opinion the best Shakespeare film adaptation out there (other than Strange Brew). I defy anyone to watch the final scene and not think some form of "holy fuck!" Apologies to Kenneth and Sir Laurence.
Rashomon may be the best of them, just not quite as right up my alley. Still love it though.
Stray Dog, the original 48 Hours, is very tense and gives an excellent feel for postwar Japan (far as I know).
Hidden Fortress is good, but is no Star Wars.
Sanjuro is a decent sequel, but lacks the peril of the original.
High and Low is very taut and lean in construction, but I penalize it because it just sort of brings me down in a non-gutwrenching way. Not really a fair reason for penalizing it, but there you are.
Ran and Kagemusha are good period pieces, but they miss something. Mainly this guy:

(Again, not a fair evaluation).

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Re: Favorite Kurosawa Films
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2016, 12:22:44 am »
Yojimbo is king, simple as that. (roughly #6-8 in my top ten)
Seven Samurai is a film that seems nowhere near as long as it is. I can stop and watch it whenever.
Throne of Blood is in my opinion the best Shakespeare film adaptation out there (other than Strange Brew). I defy anyone to watch the final scene and not think some form of "holy fuck!" Apologies to Kenneth and Sir Laurence.
Rashomon may be the best of them, just not quite as right up my alley. Still love it though.
Stray Dog, the original 48 Hours, is very tense and gives an excellent feel for postwar Japan (far as I know).
Hidden Fortress is good, but is no Star Wars.
Sanjuro is a decent sequel, but lacks the peril of the original.
High and Low is very taut and lean in construction, but I penalize it because it just sort of brings me down in a non-gutwrenching way. Not really a fair reason for penalizing it, but there you are.
Ran and Kagemusha are good period pieces, but they miss something. Mainly this guy:

Agreed on basically everything (of the ones I've seen). Rashomon seems to be his most acclaimed film, and I certainly see why due to how well the concept of the unreliable narrator was explored in it. However, as original as it was to use that narrative technique that way at the time, I feel like its impact has been lessened over the years due to how many movies have done similar things.

Always wanted to see Throne of Blood. I just got my Netflix DVD ordering back, so I think I'll add that to the ol' queue.

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Re: Favorite Kurosawa Films
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2016, 01:10:00 am »
I think I've said my part on Kurosawa's filmography quite a bit in the past.  Hidden Fortress and Rashomon are ace.  Gets tiring seeing people talk about Hidden Fortress as the film Star Wars ripped off though.  Seven Samurai is good, but I have seen better samurai films.  Ran is probably what most inspired Tarantino from Kurosawa's filmography since he has some references to that in Kill Bill.  For me, it's great.  Kurosawa's last work (Rhapsody in August) was probably his worst but it's still better than most films.  And I've seen the American version of Yojimbo with Clint Eastwood.  That's probably my favorite of the Dollars trilogy so maybe I should get on Yojimbo quick...although I've been making that promise for years now.
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Re: Favorite Kurosawa Films
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2016, 01:51:05 am »
I'm gonna get some major shit for this, but I haven't seen a single Kurosawa film.

I'm planning to start with Seven Samurai and The Hidden Fortress though.

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Re: Favorite Kurosawa Films
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2016, 01:53:50 am »
I'm gonna get some major shit for this, but I haven't seen a single Kurosawa film.

I'm planning to start with Seven Samurai and The Hidden Fortress though.

You're saying that like we expected you to have.  I think it was pretty much obvious by the way you constantly view Snyder as a mastermind director that you have limited experience with true art.


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Re: Favorite Kurosawa Films
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2016, 02:13:18 am »
I'm gonna get some major shit for this, but I haven't seen a single Kurosawa film.

I'm planning to start with Seven Samurai and The Hidden Fortress though.

You're saying that like we expected you to have.  I think it was pretty much obvious by the way you constantly view Snyder as a mastermind director that you have limited experience with true art.


And this isn't a diss... it is just the truth.
I don't view him as a mastermind, I just think that for a mainstream Hollywood director, he puts a lot more effort in than most. He's got things on his mind, and he has solid talent. But he's still learning. You'll find him nowhere near my list of the top directors of our time. In fact, I'm a lot less positive about Snyder then you'd think. This video pretty summarizes my thoughts on him:


This comment has been censored due to inappropriate material. Danny Oh, this is unacceptable content for this board. Post this again and I will be forced to delete your comment.
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Re: Favorite Kurosawa Films
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2016, 02:27:57 am »
Danny, you will cease mentioning He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named and his spawn, The-Film-That-Must-Not-Be-Named, on this thread immediately. I deleted your other comment. This is my turf, motherfucker.

Edit: Okay... this was a little harsh. For those of you who didn't see, though, Danny posted a video about a breakdown of You-Know-Who's visual style. I will not have my thread devolve into that. I've been through enough pain. Just... let me have this, guys. Please.
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Re: Favorite Kurosawa Films
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2016, 02:36:10 am »
Danny, you will cease mentioning He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named and his spawn, The-Film-That-Must-Not-Be-Named, on this thread immediately. I deleted your other comment. This is my turf, motherfucker.

Edit: Okay... this was a little harsh. For those of you who didn't see, though, Danny posted a video about a breakdown of You-Know-Who's visual style. I will not have my thread devolve into that. I've been through enough pain. Just... let me have this, guys. Please.
Ok, can I post it on somewhere else then? The only reason I posted it was because it perfectly expresses my thoughts on........... He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named.

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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2016, 02:39:11 am »
Danny, you will cease mentioning He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named and his spawn, The-Film-That-Must-Not-Be-Named, on this thread immediately. I deleted your other comment. This is my turf, motherfucker.

Edit: Okay... this was a little harsh. For those of you who didn't see, though, Danny posted a video about a breakdown of You-Know-Who's visual style. I will not have my thread devolve into that. I've been through enough pain. Just... let me have this, guys. Please.
Ok, can I post it on somewhere else then? The only reason I posted it was because it perfectly expresses my thoughts on........... He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named.

Just... not in Pretentious Elitist Snob Discussion. Please, Danny. You're seriously going to break what little, fragile sanity I have left. I've put up with a lot recently... college stuff... Donald Trump... Suicide Squad trailers... can I have just one fucking small part of my life unsullied by things I hate?

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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2016, 02:42:00 am »
Danny, you will cease mentioning He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named and his spawn, The-Film-That-Must-Not-Be-Named, on this thread immediately. I deleted your other comment. This is my turf, motherfucker.

Edit: Okay... this was a little harsh. For those of you who didn't see, though, Danny posted a video about a breakdown of You-Know-Who's visual style. I will not have my thread devolve into that. I've been through enough pain. Just... let me have this, guys. Please.
Ok, can I post it on somewhere else then? The only reason I posted it was because it perfectly expresses my thoughts on........... He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named.

Just... not in Pretentious Elitist Snob Discussion. Please, Danny. You're seriously going to break what little, fragile sanity I have left. I've put up with a lot recently... college stuff... Donald Trump... Suicide Squad trailers... can I have just one fucking small part of my life unsullied by things I hate?
Yeah, yeah, Diego. Whatever. Jesus Christ man, I'll be sure to not ruin anything more.
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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2016, 02:47:04 am »
SANJURO IS AN UNDERRATED FILM. I LOVED THE SCENE WITH THE CAMELLIAS.

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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2016, 02:48:31 am »
THE CASTLE SIEGE IN RAN IS ONE OF THE BEST ACTION SEQUENCES EVER PUT TO FILM.
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2016, 12:45:02 am »
Just saw Throne of Blood. Not my all-time favorite Kurosawa film, but it was excellent. My minor complaints mostly relate to the complete lack of humor. Granted, it's a Macbeth adaptation, so that's to be expected... still, Kurosawa usually injects a little bit of levity into his films, but there isn't much in the way of that here. I might say this is his darkest film. Have to think on that one.

Aside from this, Mifune was badass as always. I love seeing him being scary crazy instead of silly crazy every once in a while. The sets were excellent, of course, and there were a lot of little twists Kurosawa put on the Macbeth story to make it his own.

These movies always impress the crap out of me. When you consider that at this same time, America was churning out idealistic, bloodless Hollywood westerns starring John Wayne and a bunch of girls with purple eyeshadow, the realism of Kurosawa's movies stands out even more. This feels like it could have been filmed documentary-style in the very era it took place. Can you really say the same for The Searchers?

8/10.
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Re: Favorite Kurosawa Films
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2016, 11:26:18 pm »
Top 5 Kurosawa films:

1) Ran
2) Yojimbo
3) Seven Samurai
4) Rashomon
5) The Hidden Fortress

Red Beard is great too. That needs a Criterion release asap.

 

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