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Tut's Tutillating Fourth Annual Top 100 Films List
« on: July 20, 2016, 03:09:05 pm »
Updated with new films, old films, and films I rewatched and loved even more! I know it's a little presumptuous to put this in Pretentious Elitist Snob discussion, but this board needs more topics (get on that, you bastards), and anyway, it's my safe space. Feel free to make your own 100 Favorite Films list! We'd all love to see it.

Besides, I'm the biggest hipster of them all! Which is why my #100 pick is...



#100: National Treasure

What can I say? National Treasure is perfection. I always reserve my #100 slot for a film that is grossly underrated (in the past, I, Robot and Independence Day have held this slot), and National Treasure is no exception. Critics seemed to judge this film as a generic action movie with Nicolas Cage, but in fact, it is a love letter to the spirit of America. National Treasure's ludicrous plot always treats this nation with reverence and respect, and Nicolas Cage graces the screen with another marvelous performance. The musical score is one of the greatest ever written, and Justin Bartha's comic relief presence keeps the movie moving at a brisk pace. Truly, one of the great film experiences.



Fun fact: National Treasure is the lowest-rated movie to appear on Tut's Tutillating Top 100, with a Rotten Tomatoes rating of 44%.
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#99: The Dark Knight



Yes.  I know.  I gave this a 5/10 and then a 4/10, but you know what?  I'm just gonna say it.  The Dark Knight is a masterpiece.   Plain and simple.  Heath Ledger's Joker is probably the best written character of all time.  Nolan's direction is so potent and raw, that I teared up at the end when Harvey Dent died. RIP.

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#100: National Treasure

What can I say? National Treasure is perfection. I always reserve my #100 slot for a film that is grossly underrated (in the past, I, Robot and Independence Day have held this slot), and National Treasure is no exception. Critics seemed to judge this film as a generic action movie with Nicolas Cage, but in fact, it is a love letter to the spirit of America. National Treasure's ludicrous plot always treats this nation with reverence and respect, and Nicolas Cage graces the screen with another marvelous performance. The musical score is one of the greatest ever written, and Justin Bartha's comic relief presence keeps the movie moving at a brisk pace. Truly, one of the great film experiences.



Fun fact: National Treasure is the lowest-rated movie to appear on Tut's Tutillating Top 100.
Nice pick. Definitely underrated.

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Excellent pick. National Treasure probably makes my top 100 as well.

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I remember that time we all first did those top 100 lists. Even Dommy had one, which was just about what you would expect. I think I might've been the only to abstain at the time, as I still think I would need to see more and rarer categories of film (i.e. lots of stuff in Braden's list) before I'll find it "objective" enough to be comfortable with it.

Anyway, I think it was also then, after Paasche made his list, that Costigan accused him of only liking "cool movies" and that short-lived meme began. I can't find that list now, but I do remember noticing how only 5 films or so in that list seemed to have women in lead roles. Now, I don't want to imply too much, but when you combine it with the very similar data on AFI Top 100 thread + his statement he wanted the girl in Spirited Away to die, + his outlier scores for Finding Dory and The Witch, (where he specifically took issue with difficult protagonists) + Nolan's films reputation for treating female characters + outlier praise for BvS (which, in its Extended Cut, accomplishes the rarely seen feat of kidnapping two women in two concurrent scenes + murdering 3 supporting female characters within 5 minutes of each other) ...

A trend of sorts seems to emerge. I'm interested to know what you think of this.

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I remember that time we all first did those top 100 lists. Even Dommy had one, which was just about what you would expect. I think I might've been the only to abstain at the time, as I still think I would need to see more and rarer categories of film (i.e. lots of stuff in Braden's list) before I'll find it "objective" enough to be comfortable with it.

Anyway, I think it was also then, after Paasche made his list, that Costigan accused him of only liking "cool movies" and that short-lived meme began. I can't find that list now, but I do remember noticing how only 5 films or so in that list seemed to have women in lead roles. Now, I don't want to imply too much, but when you combine it with the very similar data on AFI Top 100 thread + his statement he wanted the girl in Spirited Away to die, + his outlier scores for Finding Dory and The Witch, (where he specifically took issue with difficult protagonists) + Nolan's films reputation for treating female characters + outlier praise for BvS (which, in its Extended Cut, accomplishes the rarely seen feat of kidnapping two women in two concurrent scenes + murdering 3 supporting female characters within 5 minutes of each other) ...

A trend of sorts seems to emerge. I'm interested to know what you think of this.
Dude, don't mention that **** here.

(but i'll bite because i'm a fanboy ****. bvs is totally misogynistic. nevermind the presence of wonder woman, a feminist icon. snyder's a hack and hates women. that's why his films feature strong female characters and he dedicated one to his deceased mother)

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I remember that time we all first did those top 100 lists. Even Dommy had one, which was just about what you would expect. I think I might've been the only to abstain at the time, as I still think I would need to see more and rarer categories of film (i.e. lots of stuff in Braden's list) before I'll find it "objective" enough to be comfortable with it.

Anyway, I think it was also then, after Paasche made his list, that Costigan accused him of only liking "cool movies" and that short-lived meme began. I can't find that list now, but I do remember noticing how only 5 films or so in that list seemed to have women in lead roles. Now, I don't want to imply too much, but when you combine it with the very similar data on AFI Top 100 thread + his statement he wanted the girl in Spirited Away to die, + his outlier scores for Finding Dory and The Witch, (where he specifically took issue with difficult protagonists) + Nolan's films reputation for treating female characters + outlier praise for BvS (which, in its Extended Cut, accomplishes the rarely seen feat of kidnapping two women in two concurrent scenes + murdering 3 supporting female characters within 5 minutes of each other) ...

A trend of sorts seems to emerge. I'm interested to know what you think of this.
Dude, don't mention that **** here.

(but i'll bite because i'm a fanboy ****. bvs is totally misogynistic. nevermind the presence of wonder woman, a feminist icon. snyder's a hack and hates women. that's why his films feature strong female characters and he dedicated one to his deceased mother)

My moderator power and mission purpose compelled me to remove that post. I would've roved this to the "film's" thread, but since I have no global powers, I can apparently only split posts into different topics on the same corner of Oasis, which would be even worse.

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I remember that time we all first did those top 100 lists. Even Dommy had one, which was just about what you would expect. I think I might've been the only to abstain at the time, as I still think I would need to see more and rarer categories of film (i.e. lots of stuff in Braden's list) before I'll find it "objective" enough to be comfortable with it.

Anyway, I think it was also then, after Paasche made his list, that Costigan accused him of only liking "cool movies" and that short-lived meme began. I can't find that list now, but I do remember noticing how only 5 films or so in that list seemed to have women in lead roles. Now, I don't want to imply too much, but when you combine it with the very similar data on AFI Top 100 thread + his statement he wanted the girl in Spirited Away to die, + his outlier scores for Finding Dory and The Witch, (where he specifically took issue with difficult protagonists) + Nolan's films reputation for treating female characters + outlier praise for BvS (which, in its Extended Cut, accomplishes the rarely seen feat of kidnapping two women in two concurrent scenes + murdering 3 supporting female characters within 5 minutes of each other) ...

A trend of sorts seems to emerge. I'm interested to know what you think of this.

You know... there just aren't that many films in general with women in the lead roles. Women are hugely underrepresented in action movies, specifically. Batman v Superman, of course, is one of the most sexist films ever made, which made me laugh my ass off when Gal Gadot said "I was so happy to get to show off the strong, beautiful side of women." Yeah... nice job. You said three lines of dialogue (very poorly, I might add), and ran around in your skivvies stabbing an alien monster. What a great feminist message. Almost on par with Scarlett Johansson in The Avengers. BOOBS! Wait, who said that?

For people who like female leads, there's always the Terminator and Alien franchises. Still though, the lack of women in sci-fi/action frustrates me. One of the reasons I love Firefly... four great female leads in that series.
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This thread has been contaminated with The BvS Plague.  Quarantine effective as of now.  Enter this thread and you'll be shot on sight.

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Let's see if this works.

Dude, it's fine. Danny is as Danny does. If he takes it too far, I'll censor his comments again.

OK then. Was just testing out my powers for the first time.


I remember that time we all first did those top 100 lists. Even Dommy had one, which was just about what you would expect. I think I might've been the only to abstain at the time, as I still think I would need to see more and rarer categories of film (i.e. lots of stuff in Braden's list) before I'll find it "objective" enough to be comfortable with it.

Anyway, I think it was also then, after Paasche made his list, that Costigan accused him of only liking "cool movies" and that short-lived meme began. I can't find that list now, but I do remember noticing how only 5 films or so in that list seemed to have women in lead roles. Now, I don't want to imply too much, but when you combine it with the very similar data on AFI Top 100 thread + his statement he wanted the girl in Spirited Away to die, + his outlier scores for Finding Dory and The Witch, (where he specifically took issue with difficult protagonists) + Nolan's films reputation for treating female characters + outlier praise for BvS (which, in its Extended Cut, accomplishes the rarely seen feat of kidnapping two women in two concurrent scenes + murdering 3 supporting female characters within 5 minutes of each other) ...

A trend of sorts seems to emerge. I'm interested to know what you think of this.

You know... there just aren't that many films in general with women in the lead roles. Women are hugely underrepresented in action movies, specifically. Buttman v Pooperman, of course, is one of the most sexist films ever made, which made me laugh my ass off when Gal Gadot said "I was so happy to get to show off the strong, beautiful side of women." Yeah... nice job. You said three lines of dialogue (very poorly, I might add), and ran around in your skivvies stabbing an alien monster. What a great feminist message. Almost on par with Scarlett Johansson in The Avengers. BOOBS! Wait, who said that?

For people who like female leads, there's always the Terminator and Alien franchises. Still though, the lack of women in sci-fi/action frustrates me. One of the reasons I love Firefly... four great female leads in that series.

True. I'm not sure if I showed you, but there's a critic, Mary Ann Johansson, who's been reviewing since the late 90's at least, and she's decided to do a running analysis on the subject for the entirety of last year. Her methodology can be questionable, but the results are still quite interesting.

Interestingly, I would say that there's considerably more gender balance in terms of films currently made in Russia. Some of it might be perception bias, but I would at least say there's hardly a shortage at releases for middle-aged women, for instance (counter-intuitively, it's also why Sisters was received rather coldly last year, as there was no shortage of movies like it, and it wasn't seen as anything special.)

Similarly, last year saw at least 2 major theater releases about WW2 that had female protagonists: Battle for Sevastopol about the legendary Ukrainian sniper who killed 309 Germans and was sent as an envoy to meet Roosevelt, and the remake of Foreign Oscar-nominated Soviet film about air defence battery crew (which went the way most remakes do). In general, films about female soldiers seem to get made every other year or so, sometimes overlapping with fantasy. Sci-fi is... well, Night Watch/Day Watch movies remain our most notable action sci-fi in a decade, so you get the idea.

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This thread has been contaminated with The BvS Plague.  Quarantine effective as of now.  Enter this thread and you'll be shot on sight.

Top 100 lists will always incite debate. Granted, maybe not the debate I want, but hopefully as this continues we'll be able to guide the conversation in a different direction.

#99: Another Earth

Gee, speaking of movies with female leads... Another Earth is another underrated film that I have seen twice now, and its impact is not lessened whatsoever the second time around. Though its premise is sci-fi, there is nothing fantastical about the way it approaches its subject. At its core, it is a deeply personal and human character study of a young woman who, with one bad decision, changes her life irreparably. This movie is about how quickly our reality can change, and what we can do to make amends for our mistakes. And the ending, I feel comfortable saying, is the most haunting finale I have ever seen in a film. See this movie. I recommend it without any reservations.


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Still though, the lack of women in sci-fi/action frustrates me.
Mad Max: Fury Road and Star Wars: The Force Awakens had great female leads. The Avengers and Captain America films fully fleshed out Black Widow.

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Still though, the lack of women in sci-fi/action frustrates me.
The Avengers and Captain America films fully fleshed out Black Widow.

Laughable.

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This thread has been contaminated with The BvS Plague.  Quarantine effective as of now.  Enter this thread and you'll be shot on sight.

Top 100 lists will always incite debate. Granted, maybe not the debate I want, but hopefully as this continues we'll be able to guide the conversation in a different direction.

#99: Another Earth

Gee, speaking of movies with female leads... Another Earth is another underrated film that I have seen twice now, and its impact is not lessened whatsoever the second time around. Though its premise is sci-fi, there is nothing fantastical about the way it approaches its subject. At its core, it is a deeply personal and human character study of a young woman who, with one bad decision, changes her life irreparably. This movie is about how quickly our reality can change, and what we can do to make amends for our mistakes. And the ending, I feel comfortable saying, is the most haunting finale I have ever seen in a film. See this movie. I recommend it without any reservations.


Have you seen Mike Cahill's follow up, I, Origins?

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Still though, the lack of women in sci-fi/action frustrates me.
Mad Max: Fury Road and Star Wars: The Force Awakens had great female leads. The Avengers and Captain America films fully fleshed out Black Widow.
He gave MM:FR a 3/10, ironically.

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Still though, the lack of women in sci-fi/action frustrates me.
Mad Max: Fury Road and Star Wars: The Force Awakens had great female leads. The Avengers and Captain America films fully fleshed out Black Widow.
He gave MM:FR a 3/10, ironically.

Fury Road was garbage for entirely different reasons. Female leads mean nothing when they're completely underdeveloped. And I mean character-wise, not from Dommy's cup-size-theorem perspective.

Anyway, I have not seen Cahill's other work. I'm definitely intrigued though, so maybe I'll order it from Netflix sometime. Have you seen I Origins, Danny?

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Still though, the lack of women in sci-fi/action frustrates me.
Mad Max: Fury Road and Star Wars: The Force Awakens had great female leads. The Avengers and Captain America films fully fleshed out Black Widow.
He gave MM:FR a 3/10, ironically.
Anyway, I have not seen Cahill's other work. I'm definitely intrigued though, so maybe I'll order it from Netflix sometime. Have you seen I Origins, Danny?
I'm in the same boat as you.

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Still though, the lack of women in sci-fi/action frustrates me.
The Avengers and Captain America films fully fleshed out Black Widow.

Laughable.
Can't believe I'm doing this, but...

...here are my arguments:
- In the Avengers, she helps recruit the Hulk to join the Avengers Initiative, she literally tricks Loki the trickster god, and she's the one to close the alien portal, therefore ending the Battle of New York
- In Age of Ultron, she's given a compelling backstory where she was forced to be transformed into an assassin (this is why she calls herself a monster, not the fact that she can't have children), she rescues Hawkeye after he's incapacitated by Quicksilver; she aids Captain America on a motorcycle, picks up his shield while riding the bike, travels halfway across the city, powerslides underneath a moving truck, and throws the shield back at him therefore saving him from Ultron
- She's indispensable to the plot of Winter Soldier, so if she was removed, then the film wouldn't really work

 

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