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A Wrinkle in Time
« on: February 21, 2018, 11:31:25 pm »
Directed by Ava DuVernay from a screenplay by Jennifer Lee adapted from the novel of the same name by Madeleine L'Engle, the Disney science fantasy adventure film, the first live-action film with a production budget over $100 million to be directed by a woman of color, stars Storm Reid, Oprah Winfrey, Reese Witherspoon, Mindy Kaling, Levi Miller, Chris Pine, Gugu Mbatha-Raw, Deric McCabe, Zach Galifiankis, Michael Pena, Andre Holland, Bellamy Young, Rowan Blanchard, and Will McCormack. After learning her astrophysicist father Alex is being held captive on a distant planet deep in the grip of a universe-spanning evil, Meg Murry works with her highly intelligent younger brother, her new friend and fellow student Calvin O'Keeffe, and three astral travelers, Mrs. Which, Mrs. Whatsit, and Mrs. Who, to save him.

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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2018, 11:37:59 pm »
Disney? Check. Oprah? Check. Terrible CGI? Check. That lame cover of the Eurythmics song that was used in Sucker Punch? Check. "What if we're a part of something greater than ourselves?" Check. Child actors? Check.

I could go on. I will not be seeing this.
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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2018, 12:22:07 am »
My family wants to see this so I'll probably end up seeing it by the end of the year. My dad is the only one of us who actually read the book and he's not particularly optimistic, as he fears it'll be too patronizing.

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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2018, 12:24:20 am »
My family wants to see this so I'll probably end up seeing it by the end of the year. My dad is the only one of us who actually read the book and he's not particularly optimistic, as he fears it'll be too patronizing.
I think I might've seen the made-for-TV film when I was little, but I can't remember.
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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2018, 02:36:44 pm »
45% on RT with 56 reviews. Probably doesnít matter since itíll still make a boatload of cash anyway.

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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2018, 03:56:49 pm »
45% on RT with 56 reviews. Probably doesnít matter since itíll still make a boatload of cash anyway.

Wow, I'm shocked. I didn't know the critics had it in them to reject this piece of crap.

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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2018, 04:25:27 pm »
45% on RT with 56 reviews. Probably doesnít matter since itíll still make a boatload of cash anyway.

Looks shitty.
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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2018, 04:57:39 pm »
Disney? Check. Oprah? Check. Terrible CGI? Check. That lame cover of the Eurythmics song that was used in Sucker Punch? Check. "What if we're a part of something greater than ourselves?" Check. Child actors? Check.

I could go on. I will not be seeing this.

I COULD get dragged to this since wife just got out of the hospital and I kind of have to give her absolute control over which movies we go see for the foreseeable future.  However, after dragging me to Justice League and that movie subsequently sucking all sorts of cock, she may afford me some manner of veto, which I would use on this crappy-looking film.

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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2018, 06:45:34 pm »
Disney? Check. Oprah? Check. Terrible CGI? Check. That lame cover of the Eurythmics song that was used in Sucker Punch? Check. "What if we're a part of something greater than ourselves?" Check. Child actors? Check.

I could go on. I will not be seeing this.

I COULD get dragged to this since wife just got out of the hospital and I kind of have to give her absolute control over which movies we go see for the foreseeable future.  However, after dragging me to Justice League and that movie subsequently sucking all sorts of cock, she may afford me some manner of veto, which I would use on this crappy-looking film.

If you do see it, I'll want to hear all about it (since I'll probably never watch it). The odds of this actually being good are astronomically low.

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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2018, 07:12:51 pm »
Disney? Check. Oprah? Check. Terrible CGI? Check. That lame cover of the Eurythmics song that was used in Sucker Punch? Check. "What if we're a part of something greater than ourselves?" Check. Child actors? Check.

I could go on. I will not be seeing this.

I COULD get dragged to this since wife just got out of the hospital and I kind of have to give her absolute control over which movies we go see for the foreseeable future.  However, after dragging me to Justice League and that movie subsequently sucking all sorts of cock, she may afford me some manner of veto, which I would use on this crappy-looking film.

If you do see it, I'll want to hear all about it (since I'll probably never watch it). The odds of this actually being good are astronomically low.

I feel like it's gonna be worse than Tomorrowland. 

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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2018, 07:14:21 pm »
Disney? Check. Oprah? Check. Terrible CGI? Check. That lame cover of the Eurythmics song that was used in Sucker Punch? Check. "What if we're a part of something greater than ourselves?" Check. Child actors? Check.

I could go on. I will not be seeing this.

I COULD get dragged to this since wife just got out of the hospital and I kind of have to give her absolute control over which movies we go see for the foreseeable future.  However, after dragging me to Justice League and that movie subsequently sucking all sorts of cock, she may afford me some manner of veto, which I would use on this crappy-looking film.

If you do see it, I'll want to hear all about it (since I'll probably never watch it). The odds of this actually being good are astronomically low.

I feel like it's gonna be worse than Tomorrowland. 

Tomorrowland is good, imo.
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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2018, 09:23:05 pm »
Disney? Check. Oprah? Check. Terrible CGI? Check. That lame cover of the Eurythmics song that was used in Sucker Punch? Check. "What if we're a part of something greater than ourselves?" Check. Child actors? Check.

I could go on. I will not be seeing this.

I COULD get dragged to this since wife just got out of the hospital and I kind of have to give her absolute control over which movies we go see for the foreseeable future.  However, after dragging me to Justice League and that movie subsequently sucking all sorts of cock, she may afford me some manner of veto, which I would use on this crappy-looking film.

If you do see it, I'll want to hear all about it (since I'll probably never watch it). The odds of this actually being good are astronomically low.

I feel like it's gonna be worse than Tomorrowland. 

Tomorrowland is good, imo.

WTF?  Come on, man, that movie was meh as it gets.

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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2018, 03:12:14 am »
Probably doesnít matter since itíll still make a boatload of cash anyway.

Actually, I heard it's not tracking to make that much, especially for all the marketing Disney's put out.

Given the reviews this might end up being another Tomorrowland in more ways than one.

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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2018, 08:31:28 am »
Probably doesnít matter since itíll still make a boatload of cash anyway.

Actually, I heard it's not tracking to make that much, especially for all the marketing Disney's put out.

Given the reviews this might end up being another Tomorrowland in more ways than one.
Iíve heard itís tracking for the mid $30 million range, which isnít outright fantastic, but might deter it from being another Tomorrowland; plus, Wrinkle in Timeís budget is $90 million less than Tomorrowland, so if itís able to make to at least $80 million or so the overseas gross will probably push it into the profit range.

Disneyís also gotten into a niche where every single movie they make will, according to the media, will put you on the right side of history when you watch it, so that combined with the occasional instances of celebrities buying out theaters to let kids watch them will probably bump its gross up a bit more.

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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2018, 09:49:30 am »
Probably doesnít matter since itíll still make a boatload of cash anyway.

Actually, I heard it's not tracking to make that much, especially for all the marketing Disney's put out.

Given the reviews this might end up being another Tomorrowland in more ways than one.
Iíve heard itís tracking for the mid $30 million range, which isnít outright fantastic, but might deter it from being another Tomorrowland; plus, Wrinkle in Timeís budget is $90 million less than Tomorrowland, so if itís able to make to at least $80 million or so the overseas gross will probably push it into the profit range.

Disneyís also gotten into a niche where every single movie they make will, according to the media, will put you on the right side of history when you watch it, so that combined with the occasional instances of celebrities buying out theaters to let kids watch them will probably bump its gross up a bit more.

Looking at the projections along with the $$ they spent in production plus the heavy marketing campaign, I can ALMOST assure you this movie is going to lose money when it's all said and done - it's production was $103 mil, and it's marketing/ads/distribution will be at least that much given how they flooded the Olympics with ads.  So they are looking at ROUGHLY a $210 mil expenditure.  We'll see how much their box office take is - but I'm guessing it will be around $125 mil when all is said and done.

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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2018, 05:38:14 pm »
I think they'll be in the clear if this hits $250M-$300M worldwide.
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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2018, 05:41:28 pm »
I think they'll be in the clear if this hits $250M-$300M worldwide.
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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2018, 05:53:20 pm »
I think they'll be in the clear if this hits $250M-$300M worldwide.

Not even close.  That would equal about a $75-$100 mil loss.

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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2018, 06:14:11 pm »
I think they'll be in the clear if this hits $250M-$300M worldwide.

Not even close.  That would equal about a $75-$100 mil loss.

Here's a spreadsheet of The Jungle Book's total costs/revenue:

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You're not accounting for all of the extra revenue that the studio will make from other sources that aren't just theatrical exhibition.  Look at how much The Jungle Book is estimated to make from home entertainment sales.  In addition to this, it'll also make a lot from TV showings.  A Wrinkle in Time should have smaller numbers than this, but it's highly likely that they make enough to account for the $75M or so that they lost only in theaters.
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Re: A Wrinkle in Time
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2018, 11:34:29 pm »
I think they'll be in the clear if this hits $250M-$300M worldwide.

Not even close.  That would equal about a $75-$100 mil loss.

Here's a spreadsheet of The Jungle Book's total costs/revenue:

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You're not accounting for all of the extra revenue that the studio will make from other sources that aren't just theatrical exhibition.  Look at how much The Jungle Book is estimated to make from home entertainment sales.  In addition to this, it'll also make a lot from TV showings.  A Wrinkle in Time should have smaller numbers than this, but it's highly likely that they make enough to account for the $75M or so that they lost only in theaters.

Jungle Book and Wrinkle In Time are two totally different animals.  Jungle Book was a reimagination of one of the most popular animated films of all time.  It made almost $1 billion worldwide - so yeah, they are gonna recoup WAY more from DVD/Blu Ray as well as TV.  If Wrinkle In Time bombs to about $300 mil ww, it's gonna made WAY less in those avenues because clearly the interest isn't there.  Furthermore, Jungle Book, being based on a children's animated film, had the built in sales by parents (who saw the animated version when they were kids) who bought that movie for their kids.  Wrinkle In Time won't have that either.

A more apt comparison would be Tomorrowland - an equally reviewed film that made roughly as much as Wrinkle In Time is projected to make.  Here are the Home Entertainment numbers for Tomorrowland.

Home Market Performance
Est. Domestic DVD Sales   $6,130,252   Details
Est. Domestic Blu-ray Sales   $5,440,670   Details
Total Est. Domestic Video Sales   $11,570,922   


 

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