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I'll probably see it in theaters... eventually.
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You know... I preferred this to Rogue One.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I prefer being garroted to Rogue One.

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You know... I preferred this to Rogue One.

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I preferred that video of a toddler being hit by a dump truck to Rogue One.

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Opening at 71%. How far do y'all think this could drop?

So yeah, it didn't budge at all, one way or the other. Btw, the scores from Russian critics are so far second highest for all the Disney Wars, at 76 (that's a Metacritic-style score, not a positive/negative percentage), with Farce Awakens being at 80, Last Jedi at 73 and Rogue One at 72.

At the same time, Rogue One is by far in the userscore lead with 85, TFA at 76, and Last Jedi at 67, while this is currently at 78, but might well drop. Granted, not many people vote there (TFA had 77 user votes, RO 58 and TLJ 70), but it does concur with other opinions I have seen online or heard IRL, with nearly everyone putting Rogue One in the lead. I think this might be because it finally admitted rebels were just terrorists, which is what we thought all along. I suppose I ought to finally watch it, to see whether I would side more with the Oasis consensus, or that of our cinemagoers.

Also, it apparently opened below Deadpool 2's second week here, which is quite embarrassing.

Something else I have been wondering about recently: do you think its failure will also put the brakes on the Boba Fett movie, or does the Disney machine now have too much inertia associated with it?

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Opening at 71%. How far do y'all think this could drop?

So yeah, it didn't budge at all, one way or the other. Btw, the scores from Russian critics are so far second highest for all the Disney Wars, at 76 (that's a Metacritic-style score, not a positive/negative percentage), with Farce Awakens being at 80, Last Jedi at 73 and Rogue One at 72.

At the same time, Rogue One is by far in the userscore lead with 85, TFA at 76, and Last Jedi at 67, while this is currently at 78, but might well drop. Granted, not many people vote there (TFA had 77 user votes, RO 58 and TLJ 70), but it does concur with other opinions I have seen online or heard IRL, with nearly everyone putting Rogue One in the lead. I think this might be because it finally admitted rebels were just terrorists, which is what we thought all along. I suppose I ought to finally watch it, to see whether I would side more with the Oasis consensus, or that of our cinemagoers.

Also, it apparently opened below Deadpool 2's second week here, which is quite embarrassing.

Something else I have been wondering about recently: do you think its failure will also put the brakes on the Boba Fett movie, or does the Disney machine now have too much inertia associated with it?
They’ll probably just give all these upcoming films December releases and presumably double down on diverse casts or what not. For the Boba Fett film, for example, they might cast Daniel Logan (the guy who played kid Boba Fett in AotC) again and hype the fact that he’s Maori since modern Disney films love loudly pronouncing their progressivism in their marketing (hence the whole “Lando is pansexual” thing that was alluded to once in the actual film). Going forward they’ll probably focus more on America/Europe because China just doesn’t care about these films.

Of course, I could be wrong, and they’ll just repeat all their mistakes again and blame the alt-right or whatever.

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Opening at 71%. How far do y'all think this could drop?

So yeah, it didn't budge at all, one way or the other. Btw, the scores from Russian critics are so far second highest for all the Disney Wars, at 76 (that's a Metacritic-style score, not a positive/negative percentage), with Farce Awakens being at 80, Last Jedi at 73 and Rogue One at 72.

At the same time, Rogue One is by far in the userscore lead with 85, TFA at 76, and Last Jedi at 67, while this is currently at 78, but might well drop. Granted, not many people vote there (TFA had 77 user votes, RO 58 and TLJ 70), but it does concur with other opinions I have seen online or heard IRL, with nearly everyone putting Rogue One in the lead. I think this might be because it finally admitted rebels were just terrorists, which is what we thought all along. I suppose I ought to finally watch it, to see whether I would side more with the Oasis consensus, or that of our cinemagoers.

Also, it apparently opened below Deadpool 2's second week here, which is quite embarrassing.

Something else I have been wondering about recently: do you think its failure will also put the brakes on the Boba Fett movie, or does the Disney machine now have too much inertia associated with it?
They’ll probably just give all these upcoming films December releases and presumably double down on diverse casts or what not. For the Boba Fett film, for example, they might cast Daniel Logan (the guy who played kid Boba Fett in AotC) again and hype the fact that he’s Maori since modern Disney films love loudly pronouncing their progressivism in their marketing (hence the whole “Lando is pansexual” thing that was alluded to once in the actual film). Going forward they’ll probably focus more on America/Europe because China just doesn’t care about these films.

Of course, I could be wrong, and they’ll just repeat all their mistakes again and blame the alt-right or whatever.

Yeah, I still do not understand why they didn't go for the November/December release. I even checked releases for those months, and it still doesn't make sense: did they really think it would have a harder time competing with Aquaman and Bumblebee than with Infinity War, Deadpool 2 and their own franchise fatigue?

Now, while hoping that Episode IX flops is too much, do you think it now has a good chance of grossing below a billion? That would send a good message in and of itself, and may even get them to reconsider the "next trilogy" crap.

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Opening at 71%. How far do y'all think this could drop?

So yeah, it didn't budge at all, one way or the other. Btw, the scores from Russian critics are so far second highest for all the Disney Wars, at 76 (that's a Metacritic-style score, not a positive/negative percentage), with Farce Awakens being at 80, Last Jedi at 73 and Rogue One at 72.

At the same time, Rogue One is by far in the userscore lead with 85, TFA at 76, and Last Jedi at 67, while this is currently at 78, but might well drop. Granted, not many people vote there (TFA had 77 user votes, RO 58 and TLJ 70), but it does concur with other opinions I have seen online or heard IRL, with nearly everyone putting Rogue One in the lead. I think this might be because it finally admitted rebels were just terrorists, which is what we thought all along. I suppose I ought to finally watch it, to see whether I would side more with the Oasis consensus, or that of our cinemagoers.

Also, it apparently opened below Deadpool 2's second week here, which is quite embarrassing.

Something else I have been wondering about recently: do you think its failure will also put the brakes on the Boba Fett movie, or does the Disney machine now have too much inertia associated with it?
They’ll probably just give all these upcoming films December releases and presumably double down on diverse casts or what not. For the Boba Fett film, for example, they might cast Daniel Logan (the guy who played kid Boba Fett in AotC) again and hype the fact that he’s Maori since modern Disney films love loudly pronouncing their progressivism in their marketing (hence the whole “Lando is pansexual” thing that was alluded to once in the actual film). Going forward they’ll probably focus more on America/Europe because China just doesn’t care about these films.

Of course, I could be wrong, and they’ll just repeat all their mistakes again and blame the alt-right or whatever.

Yeah, I still do not understand why they didn't go for the November/December release. I even checked releases for those months, and it still doesn't make sense: did they really think it would have a harder time competing with Aquaman and Bumblebee than with Infinity War, Deadpool 2 and their own franchise fatigue?

Now, while hoping that Episode IX flops is too much, do you think it now has a good chance of grossing below a billion? That would send a good message in and of itself, and may even get them to reconsider the "next trilogy" crap.
Responding really late here, but it’s essentially guaranteed to cross the billion dollar mark. Traditionally the second film in a Star Wars trilogy makes the least money while the final film surpasses it by a somewhat significant margin, and if the Last Jedi, for all its polarization, could pass that mark by $300 million, then Episode IX’s fortunes are looking rosy.

I could see its box office dipping a bit in America due to franchise fatigue but I think rather than bombing it’d more or less plateau out with a similar gross to TLJ a la the last Hobbit film.

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A review from state-owned "Russian Newspaper" gave it 4,5/5 stars because the writer saw true revolutionary parallels in it:

Han Solo also consists out of jokes, love, other eternal values, a space cthulthu, adrenaline-boosting chases on various vehicles and the revolutionary socialist ideas.

No, really, what did you expect? The Empire conducts wars of conquest (as illustrated with a brief travel to the hell on the frontlines) not just for any reason, but for money. Hence, someone must fund these wars. In particular, the accursed capitalists - the corporations who do not disdain either the mutually beneficial links with the criminal underworld, the brutal exploitation of workers, or the plain robbery of the people. 

The role of the voice of the proletariat, the flame-hearted Danko, the prophet of the revolution, is given to L3, the droid with the behaviours of a a boisterous black woman. She raises the miners' mutiny and then passes the spark of the revolutionary idea to Solo. In his turn, he essentially provides a massive push to the rebellious movement.

This leads us to an unexpected conclusion: if the rebels have any end goal, any plan for managing the galaxy after they depose the emperor's regime, it's quite possible that their goal is the institution of a socialist state. The Union of the Soviet Socialist Planets. A place where there's a parade on every 4th of May, on every Skywalker's Square next to the regional committee's building. A parade where Octembrists-Younglings march together, with profile of Comrade Luke on their lapel pins, and carry placards bearing words "The work of the droid L3 lives on and wins to this day!" What a beautiful picture. Even Ivan Ephremov would have shed a tear here.

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A review from state-owned "Russian Newspaper" gave it 4,5/5 stars because the writer saw true revolutionary parallels in it:

Han Solo also consists out of jokes, love, other eternal values, a space cthulthu, adrenaline-boosting chases on various vehicles and the revolutionary socialist ideas.

No, really, what did you expect? The Empire conducts wars of conquest (as illustrated with a brief travel to the hell on the frontlines) not just for any reason, but for money. Hence, someone must fund these wars. In particular, the accursed capitalists - the corporations who do not disdain either the mutually beneficial links with the criminal underworld, the brutal exploitation of workers, or the plain robbery of the people. 

The role of the voice of the proletariat, the flame-hearted Danko, the prophet of the revolution, is given to L3, the droid with the behaviours of a a boisterous black woman. She raises the miners' mutiny and then passes the spark of the revolutionary idea to Solo. In his turn, he essentially provides a massive push to the rebellious movement.

This leads us to an unexpected conclusion: if the rebels have any end goal, any plan for managing the galaxy after they depose the emperor's regime, it's quite possible that their goal is the institution of a socialist state. The Union of the Soviet Socialist Planets. A place where there's a parade on every 4th of May, on every Skywalker's Square next to the regional committee's building. A parade where Octembrists-Younglings march together, with profile of Comrade Luke on their lapel pins, and carry placards bearing words "The work of the droid L3 lives on and wins to this day!" What a beautiful picture. Even Ivan Ephremov would have shed a tear here.

That last paragraph is (perhaps deliberately) a lot of wishful thinking that doesn’t reflect much of the actual film’s ending. Of course, the writer is entitled to his or her opinion.

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That last paragraph is (perhaps deliberately) a lot of wishful thinking that doesn’t reflect much of the actual film’s ending. Of course, the writer is entitled to his or her opinion.

Of course it is ironic. Remember, this newspaper is supposed to be the serious, measured voice of the state (which few people read, at least over here), as opposed to the multitude of the boisterous TV channels. Hence, their film reviews I've seen all have this tone where it's clear the writer considers it harmless fun and/or clearly would rather talk about politics again, like in this review.

 

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