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Re: It
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2017, 09:26:21 pm »
To be honest, this movie freaking ruled.
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Re: It
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2017, 09:28:11 pm »
To be honest, this movie freaking ruled.

How closely does it follow the book?
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Re: It
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2017, 09:38:02 pm »
To be honest, this movie freaking ruled.

How closely does it follow the book?
Aside from a stupid thing with Beverly towards the end, I'll say... close enough.
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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2017, 05:24:26 am »
To be honest, this movie freaking ruled.
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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2017, 07:35:31 am »
yeah, this was dope
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« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2017, 07:50:00 pm »
Probably one of my top ten favorite King adaptations.
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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2017, 08:18:34 pm »
To be honest, this movie freaking ruled.

I didn't know this gif was still out there! :D

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« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2017, 09:41:05 pm »
To be honest, this movie freaking ruled.

I didn't know this gif was still out there! :D
Saved it on my computer when you first posted it.

I'm actually going to see this movie next weekend, but I didn't have high expectations...until now.
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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2017, 12:21:50 pm »

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« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2017, 02:13:36 pm »
Nearly $120M for its domestic opening weekend.  Absolutely massive.  Higher opening than, say, Spider-Man: Homecoming.
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« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2017, 05:49:31 am »
I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, even if the parade is only being held to commemorate 80's nostalgia. But what is the obsession here? A competently made character backbone with the kids is OK, I can admit that. So in that sense I understand that the film being generally coherent will get positive marks from most movie critics who are just trying to get a wide audience to not waste their money.

But you guys? The movie "ruled", and was "dope"? Reading articles and comments people are hyped for this and I can only imagine that it's a mix of incredible release timing and marketing hollow 80's nostalgia (ya know, one of the most empty, consumer oriented decades) that Stranger Things was already mining. Stephen King is a prolific writer so maybe people really do just love the book and I guess the property was begging to be updated with a bigger budget and modern effects that the TV miniseries could never do.

Considering all that, I'm still confused and disappointed in movie audiences. After that terrible box office for labor day weekend and the month of August entirely, I saw dozens of individuals online parroting that if hollywood made original films then people would show up. The most frustrating thing is that August was one of the most refreshing months in movies for original releases. Logan Lucky, Ingrid Goes West, Wind River, Good Time, etc. Most did terribly at the box office and had extremely positive critical consensus'. So the other idea being thrown around that month about Rotten Tomatoes tanking movies doesn't hold up either. The thing that really drove a stake into the heart of a dismal box office period and people scrambling to theorize why that was, all while insulting all the films they ignored, is IT **** breaks box office records. Proving that asses really will fill the seats as long as a familiar property is released.

Coming from someone who doesn't think it's a terrible notion to accept superhero films as a modern era for cinema and a person who liked SW Episode 7. What the ****. Ya'll don't like jump scares in horror movies and want more slow burn, atmospheric horror like the 70s? Bullshit, every 10 minutes there was an insidious style jump and people dug it. Ya'll don't like movies being split up for the sake of the studio wringing two tickets out of you? Bullshit, people clapped when Chapter One appeared on screen in the sold out auditorium I was in. Ya'll want original movies that are also good? Bullshit, 120 million says differently. Ya'll don't like the easy comedy or tonal shifts in Marvel films? Bullshit, IT was all over the place with crowd pleasing "Your Mom! JK look at my dick you virgins, Oh **** a scary clown!" moments.

I love Spielbergian pop film, but I don't hear anyone talking about Super 8 anymore and the emotional money shot at the end/the relationships with all the kids was miles ahead of IT. Enjoy the movie, that's fine. Just don't tell me you want "originality in Hollywood". I even avoided calling IT a remake of the miniseries in favor of calling it an adaptation and it's still lame. Enjoy your child gangbang with Beverly you sick fucks.


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Re: It
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2017, 09:02:51 am »
I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, even if the parade is only being held to commemorate 80's nostalgia. But what is the obsession here? A competently made character backbone with the kids is OK, I can admit that. So in that sense I understand that the film being generally coherent will get positive marks from most movie critics who are just trying to get a wide audience to not waste their money.

But you guys? The movie "ruled", and was "dope"? Reading articles and comments people are hyped for this and I can only imagine that it's a mix of incredible release timing and marketing hollow 80's nostalgia (ya know, one of the most empty, consumer oriented decades) that Stranger Things was already mining. Stephen King is a prolific writer so maybe people really do just love the book and I guess the property was begging to be updated with a bigger budget and modern effects that the TV miniseries could never do.

Considering all that, I'm still confused and disappointed in movie audiences. After that terrible box office for labor day weekend and the month of August entirely, I saw dozens of individuals online parroting that if hollywood made original films then people would show up. The most frustrating thing is that August was one of the most refreshing months in movies for original releases. Logan Lucky, Ingrid Goes West, Wind River, Good Time, etc. Most did terribly at the box office and had extremely positive critical consensus'. So the other idea being thrown around that month about Rotten Tomatoes tanking movies doesn't hold up either. The thing that really drove a stake into the heart of a dismal box office period and people scrambling to theorize why that was, all while insulting all the films they ignored, is IT **** breaks box office records. Proving that asses really will fill the seats as long as a familiar property is released.

Coming from someone who doesn't think it's a terrible notion to accept superhero films as a modern era for cinema and a person who liked SW Episode 7. What the ****. Ya'll don't like jump scares in horror movies and want more slow burn, atmospheric horror like the 70s? Bullshit, every 10 minutes there was an insidious style jump and people dug it. Ya'll don't like movies being split up for the sake of the studio wringing two tickets out of you? Bullshit, people clapped when Chapter One appeared on screen in the sold out auditorium I was in. Ya'll want original movies that are also good? Bullshit, 120 million says differently. Ya'll don't like the easy comedy or tonal shifts in Marvel films? Bullshit, IT was all over the place with crowd pleasing "Your Mom! JK look at my dick you virgins, Oh **** a scary clown!" moments.

I love Spielbergian pop film, but I don't hear anyone talking about Super 8 anymore and the emotional money shot at the end/the relationships with all the kids was miles ahead of IT. Enjoy the movie, that's fine. Just don't tell me you want "originality in Hollywood". I even avoided calling IT a remake of the miniseries in favor of calling it an adaptation and it's still lame. Enjoy your child gangbang with Beverly you sick fucks.



One of the most immature "rants" I've seen on this site.  It just oozes "hey I'm such a cool guy".  The gangbang scene doesn't even happen in the movie so I'm not sure why you'd bring it up.  Makes me think you didn't even see the film at all. The difference between It and the Marvel Universe is that It is made to tell the story that starts and finishes.  There isn't gonna be a spin off.  The story is split in two because that makes the most sense.  The book is a 1000+ page tale and a huge portion of those pages involve the adults going back to face It.  Even at this film's whopping 2 hour 15 minute runtime, it barely covered developing all the kids in the Losers Club.  It makes the most sense to split it in two BECAUSE of how much material there is in the source.  People complain about splitting a movie in two because the opposite of that notion.  The Hunger Games book was relatively short, but the film felt like it had long stretches of nothing happening.

Ya'll don't like jump scares in horror movies and want more slow burn, atmospheric horror like the 70s? Bullshit, every 10 minutes there was an insidious style jump and people dug it.

The Insidious and Conjuring movies are critically acclaimed, you retard.  The problem with those films are that they take themselves too seriously and ignore the campy element of being terrorized by a clown.

Stop trying to come off as this Neo-type stuck in the Matrix.  It makes you look like a dumbass crybaby.
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Re: It
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2017, 06:52:24 pm »
That's fair, I don't have the best attitude about the film. The Beverly thing was a joke. I never said the Insidious movie wasn't acclaimed, and I kinda dig the Conjuring, didn't say anything bad about that one. The chair floating slowly was neat and subtle. I brought up other points though and got called immature. If I thought I was cool I wouldn't admit to liking capeshit and Star Wars.

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« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2017, 08:28:40 pm »
3 dumbest things in that rant:

3: "Every 10 minutes there was an insidious style jump". It really didn't have that many jump scares, and the one I distinctly recall was really effective (Pennywise in the bathroom had a lot of the theater screaming).

2. "Ya'll don't like movies being split up for the sake of the studio wringing two tickets out of you? Bullshit, people clapped when Chapter One appeared on screen in the sold out auditorium I was in". Yeah, no one complains about this in cases when it's warranted. It was fine for Harry Potter 7, and it's fine for this because there's so much story to tell. As Cutler said, it's only a problem when they clearly have to stretch the existing material to make more movies and more money (Hunger Games, Allegiant, Hobbit).

And number one..."Enjoy your child gangbang with Beverly you sick fucks". So as everyone in the world knows, this wasn't actually in the movie. But yeah, just pull the classic "it was a joke" after you get called out for saying some stupid shit.

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« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2017, 08:34:39 pm »
Ya'll don't like jump scares in horror movies and want more slow burn, atmospheric horror like the 70s?
You're acting like this is the only kind of horror movie you can make and that it's not a versatile genre. Do you demand every horror movie be like the 70s slow burns or just the ones you don't like?
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« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2017, 08:38:54 pm »
It's a really dumb rant.  The complaints don't stick and that Beverly joke makes absolutely no sense in the context of the film. 
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« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2017, 08:51:13 pm »
One part I want to address in that rant is how Logan Lucky, Ingrid Goes West, Wind River, and Good Time were considered to be "proof" that audiences don't show up to original movies or something like that.  First of all, Wind River did really well for the kind of film that it was.  Second of all, none of those films had a substantial marketing push since none of them are from big studios.  You're forgetting one of the most basic aspects when it comes to releasing a movie: Marketing it so people are aware of its existence.  I'm sure if one of those films was a major release by, say, Warner Bros. or Universal, they'd be making far more than they were.  What average moviegoer has heard of Good Time or Ingrid Goes West?
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« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2017, 09:48:28 pm »
3 dumbest things in that rant:

3: "Every 10 minutes there was an insidious style jump". It really didn't have that many jump scares, and the one I distinctly recall was really effective (Pennywise in the bathroom had a lot of the theater screaming).

Classic Caleb jumping on the bandwagon. Now, I should note that I haven't seen the film, but all of my friends who have seen it had the same complaint. Even the guys from RLM said this, and Jay complained about the loud noise that played every time the clown jumped out. You can disagree, but this seems to be a fairly common grievance people had with the movie.

2. "Ya'll don't like movies being split up for the sake of the studio wringing two tickets out of you? Bullshit, people clapped when Chapter One appeared on screen in the sold out auditorium I was in". Yeah, no one complains about this in cases when it's warranted. It was fine for Harry Potter 7, and it's fine for this because there's so much story to tell. As Cutler said, it's only a problem when they clearly have to stretch the existing material to make more movies and more money (Hunger Games, Allegiant, Hobbit).

When it's warranted is a purely subjective definition. I personally thought that splitting the last HP film into two parts was stupid and pointless, especially if you're going to condense book 5 (the longest book) into the shortest movie. They clearly didn't want the cash cow that was Harry Potter to die, so they milked it for all it was worth.

And number one..."Enjoy your child gangbang with Beverly you sick fucks". So as everyone in the world knows, this wasn't actually in the movie. But yeah, just pull the classic "it was a joke" after you get called out for saying some stupid shit.

Clearly a joke. I can sympathize with him, given that my sarcasm tends to soar over the heads of certain people on this site.

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« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2017, 09:51:34 pm »
When it's warranted is a purely subjective definition.

Diego, I don't think you realize this, but It is 1,153 pages long.  It's split into two sections, one with them as kids and one with them as adults.  You'd be stupid to not make it a two-parter.
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« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2017, 09:55:17 pm »
When it's warranted is a purely subjective definition.

Diego, I don't think you realize this, but It is 1,153 pages long.  It's split into two sections, one with them as kids and one with them as adults.  You'd be stupid to not make it a two-parter.

Yes, but I also know that in both adaptations, an enormous amount of material is shaved off of the story. Ellis could've phrased it in a less confrontational way, but it's still fair game to criticize.

For the record, the dumbest thing in that rant was him saying that he liked Star Wars 7.
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