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Re: Passengers
« Reply #100 on: December 22, 2016, 12:53:29 pm »
Okay, here are some more complete thoughts on Passengers, as promised:

First, while this movie is not as bad as Diego has been saying it could be, that doesn't mean it isn't kinda bad. My 5/10 was probably a bit generous. (I'm going into some minor spoilers here, but they're only spoilers because of the marketing- this all comes up in the first 20-30 minutes of the movie. Be warned though). Basically, this film is comprised of four parts, Pratt alone on the ship, them together enjoying everything, (spoiler upcoming) Lawrence hating Pratt after she realized he woke her up and them saving the ship together. One thing I did like about this movie is the moral dilemma proposed at the beginning concerning whether Pratt should wake up another passenger. While that was hidden in the marketing, it's a pretty interesting "what would you do?" question, the power of which is somewhat diluted by the fact that the audience (obviously) knows what he's going to do, but that's rather unavoidable I suppose.

The problem here is the pacing: there are basically four acts and the first and third of those can be pretty dull. The second works because of the actors; it's fun to spend time with these two characters when they're together and interacting with one another, and the fourth works because it's actually pretty good, although it's rushed for sure.

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Also, this is kind of random, but there's no resolution as to why Lawrence forgives Pratt for what he did. One minute she hates him and the next they're fine. I get that they have to work together to save the ship, but we could've used one line about how she's just working with him to save everyone at least (and then something else at the end obviously). Yeah, maybe 5/10 was a little high...
I think a better idea than Pratt intentionally waking up Lawrence so he won't die alone is him waking her up entirely by accident, that way we can actually, you know, feel sympathy for the character.
Nah, that would ruin it imo. The intrigue of that idea is predicated on his struggle on whether or not to do it, which is honestly relatable. Could you imagine being stuck alone for that long while having the option of companionship? While everyone would want to say they wouldn't wake up a fellow passenger, I think many of us would do what he did if put in that situation. Characters don't have to embody human perfection to garner sympathy from the viewer.

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Re: Passengers
« Reply #101 on: December 22, 2016, 01:05:07 pm »
Okay, here are some more complete thoughts on Passengers, as promised:

First, while this movie is not as bad as Diego has been saying it could be, that doesn't mean it isn't kinda bad. My 5/10 was probably a bit generous. (I'm going into some minor spoilers here, but they're only spoilers because of the marketing- this all comes up in the first 20-30 minutes of the movie. Be warned though). Basically, this film is comprised of four parts, Pratt alone on the ship, them together enjoying everything, (spoiler upcoming) Lawrence hating Pratt after she realized he woke her up and them saving the ship together. One thing I did like about this movie is the moral dilemma proposed at the beginning concerning whether Pratt should wake up another passenger. While that was hidden in the marketing, it's a pretty interesting "what would you do?" question, the power of which is somewhat diluted by the fact that the audience (obviously) knows what he's going to do, but that's rather unavoidable I suppose.

The problem here is the pacing: there are basically four acts and the first and third of those can be pretty dull. The second works because of the actors; it's fun to spend time with these two characters when they're together and interacting with one another, and the fourth works because it's actually pretty good, although it's rushed for sure.

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Also, this is kind of random, but there's no resolution as to why Lawrence forgives Pratt for what he did. One minute she hates him and the next they're fine. I get that they have to work together to save the ship, but we could've used one line about how she's just working with him to save everyone at least (and then something else at the end obviously). Yeah, maybe 5/10 was a little high...
I think a better idea than Pratt intentionally waking up Lawrence so he won't die alone is him waking her up entirely by accident, that way we can actually, you know, feel sympathy for the character.
Nah, that would ruin it imo. The intrigue of that idea is predicated on his struggle on whether or not to do it, which is honestly relatable. Could you imagine being stuck alone for that long while having the option of companionship? While everyone would want to say they wouldn't wake up a fellow passenger, I think many of us would do what he did if put in that situation. Characters don't have to embody human perfection to garner sympathy from the viewer.
I'm not saying he should embody human perfection. I just think the way it's handled in the finished product (granted I haven't seen it) ends up making him honestly rather creepy.

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Re: Passengers
« Reply #102 on: December 22, 2016, 01:21:51 pm »
Okay, here are some more complete thoughts on Passengers, as promised:

First, while this movie is not as bad as Diego has been saying it could be, that doesn't mean it isn't kinda bad. My 5/10 was probably a bit generous. (I'm going into some minor spoilers here, but they're only spoilers because of the marketing- this all comes up in the first 20-30 minutes of the movie. Be warned though). Basically, this film is comprised of four parts, Pratt alone on the ship, them together enjoying everything, (spoiler upcoming) Lawrence hating Pratt after she realized he woke her up and them saving the ship together. One thing I did like about this movie is the moral dilemma proposed at the beginning concerning whether Pratt should wake up another passenger. While that was hidden in the marketing, it's a pretty interesting "what would you do?" question, the power of which is somewhat diluted by the fact that the audience (obviously) knows what he's going to do, but that's rather unavoidable I suppose.

The problem here is the pacing: there are basically four acts and the first and third of those can be pretty dull. The second works because of the actors; it's fun to spend time with these two characters when they're together and interacting with one another, and the fourth works because it's actually pretty good, although it's rushed for sure.

Spoiler (hover to show)

Also, this is kind of random, but there's no resolution as to why Lawrence forgives Pratt for what he did. One minute she hates him and the next they're fine. I get that they have to work together to save the ship, but we could've used one line about how she's just working with him to save everyone at least (and then something else at the end obviously). Yeah, maybe 5/10 was a little high...
I think a better idea than Pratt intentionally waking up Lawrence so he won't die alone is him waking her up entirely by accident, that way we can actually, you know, feel sympathy for the character.
Nah, that would ruin it imo. The intrigue of that idea is predicated on his struggle on whether or not to do it, which is honestly relatable. Could you imagine being stuck alone for that long while having the option of companionship? While everyone would want to say they wouldn't wake up a fellow passenger, I think many of us would do what he did if put in that situation. Characters don't have to embody human perfection to garner sympathy from the viewer.
I just think the way it's handled in the finished product (granted I haven't seen it) ends up making him honestly rather creepy.
I didn't really find this to be true. I mean, maybe a little bit, but given he's alone for over a year, I don't think it's unreasonable to long for human companionship.

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Re: Passengers
« Reply #103 on: December 22, 2016, 01:22:50 pm »
So was Pratt just snooping around to find the hottest woman on the ship to wake up? It doesn't say much for humanity's future that the best he could do was Jennifer Lawrence...

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Re: Passengers
« Reply #104 on: December 22, 2016, 01:25:10 pm »
So was Pratt just snooping around to find the hottest woman on the ship to wake up? It doesn't say much for humanity's future that the best he could do was Jennifer Lawrence...
When Keanu Reeves was still attached, the original female lead choices were Reese Witherspoon, Rachel McAdams, and Emily Blunt, all better than JLaw tbh.

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« Reply #105 on: December 22, 2016, 01:32:20 pm »
So was Pratt just snooping around to find the hottest woman on the ship to wake up? It doesn't say much for humanity's future that the best he could do was Jennifer Lawrence...
When Keanu Reeves was still attached, the original female lead choices were Reese Witherspoon, Rachel McAdams, and Emily Blunt, all better than JLaw tbh.
Nah, no way.
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Re: Passengers
« Reply #106 on: December 22, 2016, 01:35:48 pm »
So was Pratt just snooping around to find the hottest woman on the ship to wake up? It doesn't say much for humanity's future that the best he could do was Jennifer Lawrence...
When Keanu Reeves was still attached, the original female lead choices were Reese Witherspoon, Rachel McAdams, and Emily Blunt, all better than JLaw tbh.
Nah, no way.

Emily Blunt is hotter than a cheese danish, though...

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Re: Passengers
« Reply #107 on: December 22, 2016, 01:37:08 pm »
So was Pratt just snooping around to find the hottest woman on the ship to wake up? It doesn't say much for humanity's future that the best he could do was Jennifer Lawrence...
When Keanu Reeves was still attached, the original female lead choices were Reese Witherspoon, Rachel McAdams, and Emily Blunt, all better than JLaw tbh.
Nah, no way.

Emily Blunt is hotter than a cheese danish, though...
Not if the cheese danish is J-Law

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Re: Passengers
« Reply #108 on: December 22, 2016, 01:41:18 pm »
So was Pratt just snooping around to find the hottest woman on the ship to wake up? It doesn't say much for humanity's future that the best he could do was Jennifer Lawrence...
When Keanu Reeves was still attached, the original female lead choices were Reese Witherspoon, Rachel McAdams, and Emily Blunt, all better than JLaw tbh.
Nah, no way.

Emily Blunt is hotter than a cheese danish, though...
Not if the cheese danish is J-Law

You like women that eat cum don't you... I know you saw that pic of her with all that toaster strudel sauce on her face.

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Re: Passengers
« Reply #109 on: December 27, 2016, 08:31:38 pm »

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Re: Passengers
« Reply #110 on: December 27, 2016, 08:41:28 pm »

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Re: Passengers
« Reply #111 on: December 27, 2016, 09:25:34 pm »
Flop imminent. Abandon ship.

With my expert analysis, I can boldly claim that I called it first

Being the pessimist I am, I didn't want to make that prediction and jinx it. Still though, hats off to you for having the balls to make the call. I had my fingers crossed for this. Very pleased about it.

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Re: Passengers
« Reply #112 on: December 27, 2016, 10:12:49 pm »
Flop imminent. Abandon ship.

Slightly above what Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was 5 years ago.  It has a chance at missing 100M at this point, although kind of like a 60% chance it misses and a 40% chance it makes it.
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Re: Passengers
« Reply #113 on: December 27, 2016, 10:20:09 pm »
Flop imminent. Abandon ship.
It brings me a degree of amusement to see a movie with that Kardashian reject bomb, I'm mildly concerned that studios will interpret its underperforming to be the result of audience aversion to originality rather than low quality (or some other stupid reason), and will expedite more franchise fodder. Yeah, that was happening already, but I would prefer that it not accelerate.

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Re: Passengers
« Reply #114 on: December 30, 2016, 03:39:34 pm »
Most underrated film of the year.
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« Reply #115 on: December 30, 2016, 03:42:17 pm »

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Re: Passengers
« Reply #116 on: December 30, 2016, 06:52:37 pm »
Most underrated film of the year.

I'd be saying this if it weren't for the final act.  Goddamn...it was bad.
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Re: Passengers
« Reply #117 on: December 30, 2016, 09:24:35 pm »
Most underrated film of the year.

I'd be saying this if it weren't for the final act.  Goddamn...it was bad.
I didn't exactly think the final act was bad, just a bit too by-the-numbers. I was expecting a twist.

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Re: Passengers
« Reply #118 on: December 30, 2016, 09:27:06 pm »
One other small issue with this movie: if their ship was moving at half the speed of light, wouldn't they age at half the rate of earth time? If so, they would have only been in their 70s or 80s by the time the others woke up.

 

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