+- +-

+- You

Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
 
 
 
Forgot your password?

+- Site Data

Members
Total Members: 87
Latest: brewski
New This Month: 0
New This Week: 0
New Today: 0
Stats
Total Posts: 112808
Total Topics: 4374
Most Online Today: 3
Most Online Ever: 55
(April 18, 2016, 06:09:38 pm)
Users Online
Members: 0
Guests: 0
Total: 0

Poll

Passengers ranks...

Great (9-10)
0 (0%)
Good (7-8)
1 (33.3%)
Average (4-6)
2 (66.7%)
Poor (2-3)
0 (0%)
Anus of Cinema (0-1)
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 3

Author Topic: Passengers  (Read 1033 times)

Tut

  • God-King
  • Paul Thomas Anderson
  • **********
  • Posts: 6690
  • It's all over now, baby blue...
  • Location: Nice try, NSA
Re: Passengers
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2016, 12:27:32 am »
I mean, Lawrence may be overhyped a bit at this point but that doesn't change the fact that she's charismatic and capable of an incredible performance. She was absolutely deserving of her Oscar and honestly I thought she should've won for American Hustle the next year. Sure it's a bit annoying that Mystique is now kind of the central character in the X-Men franchise but I can't blame her for the studio wanting to capitalize on her popularity. Fact is, I think she's a very good actress and I can see her and Pratt having good chemistry and making for a strong leading pair.

Yeah, she's charismatic in the way Donald Trump is charismatic, I guess. She appeals to really, really stupid people and because she's rich and famous, she makes their behavior seem mainstream and socially acceptable. Plus she's just needlessly mean-spirited. Like when she made fun of that foreign reporter. Or when she made up that bogus story about the Hawaiian rocks or whatever the fuck it was. Or when she called Christian Bale "fatman" after spending a few weeks talking about women and body image. Or when she complained about her life so much that Letterman had to tell her "No whining on the yacht." I'm sorry. I do not see the appeal. Just when you think she's as shallow as it gets, she somehow manages to drain a little more water out of the pool.

Her acting is a more subjective point, I suppose, and I do think she was okay in the first two Hunger Games films and American Hustle. That's about it, though. She certainly hasn't done anything Oscar-worthy. But nowadays, any woman with a little meat on her bones is "making a statement" about body image and they get showered with awards. And yeah, subjectivity, I know... but at the same time, I really can't see the argument for giving Jennifer Lawrence an Oscar any more than I can see the argument for giving one to Leo. I guess it's just a popularity contest at this point, as it likely always has been. They should just start giving out awards for Twitter followers and end this sham of pretending that it actually has something to do with acting talent.

As for your assertion that the movie's premise looks cool... what? Dude, you don't like Alien, Blade Runner, or Children of Men. I have never thought of you as a sci-fi fan, unless you count BVS or The Dark Knight as sci-fi (which I don't). Why in God's name does this appeal to you?
Should've cleared this up in an earlier post, but when I was talking about charisma, I meant strictly on screen. I don't really pay much attention to what actors and actresses do off screen, so I could really care less about her interviews and whatever else. I thought her performances in Silver Linings Playbook and American Hustle were both excellent, and I don't think the Oscar she received had anything to do with her popularity, well, maybe a little but I thought the SLP performance was strong enough to win on its own merit. On an aside, even though Leo's my favorite actor, I did think his Oscar last year was a bit of a makeup for him never winning before (I thought he should've won for Wolf of Wall Street, personally).

Anyway, as for your final point, those three movies don't mean that I don't care for sci-fi. Three of my top 10 all time (Inception, Looper, Source Code) are sci-fi films. I think it's more that the sci-fi films I tend to enjoy have some sort of premise that interests me (notice that each of the three in my top 10 have a clear "hook", while Alien and Blade Runner don't really have that. Children of Men was an outlier, I think). Again, it's not like I'm counting down the days till Passengers' release, but I would say that I'm looking forward to it and expect to have a good time based on the premise and talent involved (I thought The Imitation Game was quite a good film as well).

Believe me, I have no trouble dissociating someone's public life from their art. Clint Eastwood's a senile old geezer and I still love his movies. But that requires there to be something there artistically. Eastwood is a success because regardless of what he supports politically, he'll still be able to make quality films. People like him despite his public life, not because of it. Do you see the difference? Lawrence isn't getting these roles because of her acting talent; she's getting them because people quote her on Facebook and "retweet" her, which in turn is only because she starred in a bunch of shitty YA films with a built-in audience. The Hunger Games would have been a success with or without the presence of Ms. Lawrence onscreen, I promise you that. If Shailene Woodley or Kristen Stewart had played Katniss, I guarantee that they'd be the ones starring in Passengers now.

The point I'm trying to make is that the reasoning behind Lawrence's popularity is her usage in memes and her regular appearance on rag magazine covers-- not her acting ability, which as Braden noted, is hardly anything to heap praise upon. So while I try to separate the person from their art and judge the art independently, I really don't see anything "artistic" about this woman's performances. They're passable. She fills space. She says the lines. She vaguely resembles the character from the book. That's about it.

Anyway, not sure what you mean by the bolded part, but I'd argue that this movie looks like it has more in common with Transformers than it does with any of those films you listed (two of which I like a lot). Nothing about this seems "high-concept" to me, at least from what I've gleaned from the trailers. It's just a dumb action movie in a sci-fi setting. I dunno, it doesn't seem like your kind of thing.

 

+- Hot Threads

Awards Season by Charles Longboat Jr.
Today at 07:30:37 pm

The Video Games MegaThread by Charles Longboat Jr.
December 07, 2018, 01:06:29 am

The 2018 US Midterms and Goober-natorial Elections Thread by Robert Neville
November 27, 2018, 04:19:15 pm

The Official Movie Trailer/TV Spot Watching Thread by Robert Neville
November 27, 2018, 03:59:28 pm

What song are you listening to - Part II by Charles Longboat Jr.
November 26, 2018, 11:58:34 pm

THE OFFICIAL MOVIE WATCHING THREAD by Charles Longboat Jr.
November 26, 2018, 11:56:39 pm

2 Fudge 2 Knuckle by Kale Pasta
November 26, 2018, 02:35:47 am

The Trump Presidency Thread by Robert Neville
October 09, 2018, 05:27:33 pm

2018 Standings by Crohn's Boy
October 07, 2018, 11:13:25 am

Khabib vs. Conor fight by Robert Neville
October 07, 2018, 07:15:48 am

Another reason why SEC is so embarrassing... by The One Who Lurks
October 06, 2018, 07:21:54 pm

Book Thread. What are you reading? by Tut
September 26, 2018, 11:40:42 pm

MWO Movie News, a subsidiary of the Walt Disney Company by Charles Longboat Jr.
September 20, 2018, 07:51:25 pm

Whats your take on movie crowdfunding? by Robert Neville
September 16, 2018, 07:23:03 am

Consensus XXXIII: Netflicks Moovys by Crohn's Boy
September 14, 2018, 04:06:15 pm