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Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« on: August 26, 2016, 03:13:23 am »
New Star Wars. Fuck yes.

I know it doesn't open until December, but still.....new Star Wars....

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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2016, 03:23:27 am »
Thank you for making this thread. This film must be discussed in excruciating detail between now and December.

So, I will say this-- I am optimistic. I don't think this movie will succumb to the same pitfalls as The Farce Awakens, namely blatant fan service and re-creating scenes from the original movies. In fact, it doesn't seem like those pitfalls will even be an option for this film. It's telling a very different kind of story with all-new characters, first off. And from the trailers, I'm getting the sense that this movie is aware that it's merely a part of a whole, which is something I think will be very successful from a storytelling perspective. Star Wars is a cool universe-- we don't need galaxy-changing events in every single episode. Sure, this is about stealing the Death Star plans, but compared to some of the stuff that happens in other SW films, that's positively ancillary.

Visual style looks great too. Looks like a darker, more realistic take on Star Wars, with tons of grit and weight to it. So long as I manage to forget my preconceived notions before going into the theater, I'm guaranteed a great time!
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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2016, 07:15:35 am »
This is now my #1 most anticipated film of the year after being let down by Suicide Squad.

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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2016, 09:47:21 am »
This is now my #1 most anticipated film of the year after being let down by Suicide Squad.

It's #4 on my top 20 most anticipated:

1. Passengers
2. The Accountant
3. Girl on the Train
4. Rogue One
5. Magnificent Seven
6. Snowden
7. Arrival
8. Fantastic Beasts
9. Bleed for This
10. Allied
11. Hacksaw Ridge
12. Doctor Strange
13. Deepwater Horizon
14. La La Land
15. The Founder
16. Moana
17. Assassin's Creed
18. Billy Lynn
19. Rules Don't Apply
20. Patriots Day
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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2016, 11:20:23 am »
Probably my most anticipated film for the rest of the year as well.

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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2016, 05:20:09 pm »
Gonna be 100% honest here.  I respect the cast and crew.  I think they've all done good projects.  But based on what I've seen, am I the only one who thinks this looks incredibly tacky?  Dark and gritty war film with a Star Wars skin?  Gross.  It's just a blending of styles and tones that I don't think work for this franchise.  All the footage I've seen seems to show a film with conflicting tones.  At one point it wants to seem very realistic, but then in the next scene it goes to some flashy action scene.  It just doesn't work well.  I may still watch it only because I trust Gareth Edwards enough to make a decent film, but I'm not sure it'll be good.  Basically, I'm just saying that the film feels at odds with itself and it looks incredibly cheesy.

Also, that Full Metal Jacket poster was teetering on Suicide Squad levels of awful.
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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2016, 05:28:40 pm »
Gonna be 100% honest here.  I respect the cast and crew.  I think they've all done good projects.  But based on what I've seen, am I the only one who thinks this looks incredibly tacky?  Dark and gritty war film with a Star Wars skin?  Gross.  It's just a blending of styles and tones that I don't think work for this franchise.  All the footage I've seen seems to show a film with conflicting tones.  At one point it wants to seem very realistic, but then in the next scene it goes to some flashy action scene.  It just doesn't work well.  I may still watch it only because I trust Gareth Edwards enough to make a decent film, but I'm not sure it'll be good.  Basically, I'm just saying that the film feels at odds with itself and it looks incredibly cheesy.

Also, that Full Metal Jacket poster was teetering on Suicide Squad levels of awful.
Pretty sure that Full Metal Jacket poster was fanmade.

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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2016, 06:13:49 pm »
Dark and gritty war film with a Star Wars skin?  Gross.  It's just a blending of styles and tones that I don't think work for this franchise.

It's worked before.


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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2016, 06:15:41 pm »
Gonna be 100% honest here.  I respect the cast and crew.  I think they've all done good projects.  But based on what I've seen, am I the only one who thinks this looks incredibly tacky?  Dark and gritty war film with a Star Wars skin?  Gross.  It's just a blending of styles and tones that I don't think work for this franchise.  All the footage I've seen seems to show a film with conflicting tones.  At one point it wants to seem very realistic, but then in the next scene it goes to some flashy action scene.  It just doesn't work well.  I may still watch it only because I trust Gareth Edwards enough to make a decent film, but I'm not sure it'll be good.  Basically, I'm just saying that the film feels at odds with itself and it looks incredibly cheesy.

Also, that Full Metal Jacket poster was teetering on Suicide Squad levels of awful.

I somewhat agree with this. The aesthetic of the new Star Wars movies just feels slightly... off. The scene in TFA where they're fighting in the rubble of Maz Kanata's watering hole looks like it was shot on a sound stage. Still better than the sterile, computer-generated wasteland of the prequels, but I don't know if any of these movies will ever be able to recapture the visual appeal of Empire.

The latest trailer made me a lot more excited though, at least from a storytelling perspective. We shall see.

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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2016, 06:25:39 pm »
Dark and gritty war film with a Star Wars skin?  Gross.  It's just a blending of styles and tones that I don't think work for this franchise.

It's worked before.



That game worked a lot more because it had a darker overall look.  I am sorry if I can't quite formulate what I'm saying but I think that Rogue One is trying to appeal to two different groups.  One is the family friendly Star Wars and the other is a much more **** darker sci fi.  I feel it has a conflicting tone to it all.  Some of it appears to try and be spectacle.  Other times, it tries to be darker.  I certainly have no problem with dark sci fi.  My favorite sci fi films are all very dark, but if you're going to be dark, don't dip your toe in.  Go all out. 

This kinda applies to DC films too. 

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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2016, 09:19:35 pm »
Dark and gritty war film with a Star Wars skin?  Gross.  It's just a blending of styles and tones that I don't think work for this franchise.

It's worked before.



That game worked a lot more because it had a darker overall look.  I am sorry if I can't quite formulate what I'm saying but I think that Rogue One is trying to appeal to two different groups.  One is the family friendly Star Wars and the other is a much more **** darker sci fi.  I feel it has a conflicting tone to it all.  Some of it appears to try and be spectacle.  Other times, it tries to be darker.  I certainly have no problem with dark sci fi.  My favorite sci fi films are all very dark, but if you're going to be dark, don't dip your toe in.  Go all out. 

This kinda applies to DC films too. 
Well, DC going full dark wouldn't work as some of their heroes are inherently light hearted. (i;e, The Flash) Maybe for the Batman solo film.

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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2016, 09:32:00 pm »
Dark and gritty war film with a Star Wars skin?  Gross.  It's just a blending of styles and tones that I don't think work for this franchise.

It's worked before.



That game worked a lot more because it had a darker overall look.  I am sorry if I can't quite formulate what I'm saying but I think that Rogue One is trying to appeal to two different groups.  One is the family friendly Star Wars and the other is a much more **** darker sci fi.  I feel it has a conflicting tone to it all.  Some of it appears to try and be spectacle.  Other times, it tries to be darker.  I certainly have no problem with dark sci fi.  My favorite sci fi films are all very dark, but if you're going to be dark, don't dip your toe in.  Go all out. 

This kinda applies to DC films too. 
Well, DC going full dark wouldn't work as some of their heroes are inherently light hearted. (i;e, The Flash) Maybe for the Batman solo film.

Or, say, Superman...

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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2016, 09:32:50 pm »
Dark and gritty war film with a Star Wars skin?  Gross.  It's just a blending of styles and tones that I don't think work for this franchise.

It's worked before.



That game worked a lot more because it had a darker overall look.  I am sorry if I can't quite formulate what I'm saying but I think that Rogue One is trying to appeal to two different groups.  One is the family friendly Star Wars and the other is a much more **** darker sci fi.  I feel it has a conflicting tone to it all.  Some of it appears to try and be spectacle.  Other times, it tries to be darker.  I certainly have no problem with dark sci fi.  My favorite sci fi films are all very dark, but if you're going to be dark, don't dip your toe in.  Go all out. 

This kinda applies to DC films too. 
Well, DC going full dark wouldn't work as some of their heroes are inherently light hearted. (i;e, The Flash) Maybe for the Batman solo film.

Or, say, Superman...
Yes... Superman as well...

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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2016, 09:35:16 pm »
Still waiting on the conclusion of Inside OHt...

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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2016, 09:55:24 pm »
Still waiting on the conclusion of Inside OHt...

Well, the original idea was to end it with him seeing Suicide Squad...

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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2016, 10:20:03 pm »
Still waiting on the conclusion of Inside OHt...

Well, the original idea was to end it with him seeing Suicide Squad...
Lol R.I.P.

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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2016, 03:55:09 pm »
I wanted to say something on this, but then I decided I needed to watch Force Awakens first. So far, my decision to wait for nearly a year appears rather justified. I love how that Finn guy has what probably amounts to the fastest character reversal ever. From attempting to tend to a mortally wounded comrade, to easily blowing a dozen or so of other stormtroopers up with zero regret, then cheering as he shot up some more turrets, in the span of what appears to be a day or two. Brilliant.

Actually, I just rewatched that moment to make sure I'm not missing something, and it turns out I did. Dameron was the very person who shot his comrade, and he ought to have at least known where the shot came from. Yet, he's breaking him out, and obeys him unquestioningly. You know....  I kind of sympathise with Danny now. This is WORSE than Martha thing, and yet everybody ignored this. Instead of ranting against Marvel bias, he and the other fanboys should've been saying this about (Disney's) Star Wars.

Edit: So, the only name he ever had was the Stormtrooper's identification number. Which means that he had to have been prepared for trooper duty from birth, in one way or another (since he's not a clone, I'm guessing he's from an orphanage or something?) Yet, he still betrays it all almost immediately... lol.
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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2016, 04:18:08 pm »
This is kind of what BvS would have looked like if it had a better director but was saddled with the same script.

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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2016, 04:26:34 pm »
"Their masks are built to ward off smoke, not toxins."

This line is so stupid it's actually impressive. It's giving me Prometheus flashbacks with its "Carbon dioxide at 28% = dead in 5 minutes."

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Re: Rogue One - A Star Wars Story
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2016, 04:28:23 pm »
"Their masks are built to ward off smoke, not toxins."

This line is so stupid it's actually impressive. It's giving me Prometheus flashbacks with its "Carbon dioxide at 28% = dead in 5 minutes."

Oh boy.... you don't want me to bring up science in TASM 2, do you?

 

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