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Who here is still delusional enough to be excited for this thing?

I'm seeing it opening night!
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I'll probably see it in theaters... eventually.
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I'll rent it on DVD. Disney has let me down twice now.
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Author Topic: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed  (Read 256 times)

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Re: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2017, 10:02:00 pm »
Also, this is Rian Johnson we're talking about, one of the best directors working today. He's proven with Looper that he can take old ideas, put a unique spin on them, and make them feel fresh and exciting again. He's shown time and time again that he's a creative talent and he's gone on a lot about how creatively free he felt making this film. It's clear from his comments that Disney and Lucasfilm trust him quite a bit.

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Re: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2017, 10:11:20 pm »
I hope this is received so well it becomes a serious contender for Best Picture, just to piss Diego off.

Say whatever you want, Danny. It won't save you when the critics destroy Justice League.
It's funny that you think I actually expect Justice League to get anything above a 40% on RT.

Oh... I don't. But it will hurt your soul nevertheless.
Well I'll be considerably more calm than when you see The Last Jedi being critically lauded for "breaking new ground".

No. I predict 55%.
For a Disney Star Wars movie directed by Rian Johnson?

You know that the only way that would happen is if they actually did something ballsy, original, and different.

Do you really think that if this ends up being an Empire remake, people will still love it? Serious question here. Perhaps I still have too much faith in the average moviegoer, but if this ends with Luke saying "I am your father" to Rey, I can't imagine people will let it slide.
Kinda surprised you're this optimistic, considering you wanted to create death camps for DC fans.
I doubt this will retread ground already covered in Empire.

TFA rehashed A New Hope, yes, but here's the thing: they knew they needed to give the series a good shot in the arm and give fans something that looked and felt like the Original Trilogy after they were sorely let down by the prequels. Plus, it was the start of a new trilogy. They had to reintroduce old characters to a new generation of fans and reintroduce a sci-fi/fantasy world that wasn't seen in theaters for a decade, so I can understand why they played it safe. Since they already got the beginning out of the way, I see no reason for the filmmakers to continue rehashing previous installments with this and Episode IX.

However, if they do, I'll be pissed, especially if they reveal that Rey is a Skywalker which I really don't want to happen because that would be the most boring, predictable, cliched thing they could do with her character.
To be fair, script leaks did suggest that it wouldn't be a rehash like TFA. Some similarities, but really more inspired and not blatantly done again.

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Re: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2017, 11:39:14 pm »
Also, this is Rian Johnson we're talking about, one of the best directors working today. He's proven with Looper that he can take old ideas, put a unique spin on them, and make them feel fresh and exciting again. He's shown time and time again that he's a creative talent and he's gone on a lot about how creatively free he felt making this film. It's clear from his comments that Disney and Lucasfilm trust him quite a bit.

Who cares about the director? It's not like they'll actually let him make decisions...

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Re: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2017, 12:23:25 am »
Even the moronic fan community of Imgur has started to turn against Disney after seeing how horrible the world-building is for this movie.

I showed my dad these pictures and asked him to guess which ones were fan-made and which ones were official. He guessed that about half of them were fake. Especially that short-bus AT-AT walker.

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Re: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2017, 12:37:06 am »
Especially that short-bus AT-AT walker.

I haven't seen a reference that dated since... well this.

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Re: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2017, 05:26:54 am »
Well I'm excited!!!
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Re: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2017, 08:30:30 am »
I'll be pissed, especially if they reveal that Rey is a Skywalker which I really don't want to happen because that would be the most boring, predictable, cliched thing they could do with her character.
Would you hate it more if this happened or if Blade Runner 2049 outright stated Deckard was a replicant?

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Re: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2017, 08:32:15 am »
I'll be pissed, especially if they reveal that Rey is a Skywalker which I really don't want to happen because that would be the most boring, predictable, cliched thing they could do with her character.
Would you hate it more if this happened or if Blade Runner 2049 outright stated Deckard was a replicant?
Probably Deckard as a Replicant.

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Re: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2017, 10:04:20 am »

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Re: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2017, 11:07:13 am »
To be honest, I can hardly muster any excitement for this ever since the first trailer came out. If they're going for a second retread, it'll become more of an apparent problem and precedent for the things to come. Nevertheless, I'll remain optimistic and maybe, eventually see it (you know, because of family and stuff).

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Re: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2017, 11:52:18 am »
Especially that short-bus AT-AT walker.

I haven't seen a reference that dated since... well this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmV5MW_XAtg

My weakness!  Poor songwriting and bored vocals!!!

The more I think about this song, the more I think it had potential. It's got a nice beat. But the lyrics are exceptionally terrible, and I don't care for her singing voice. Still more than I can say for most songs these days, though.

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Re: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2017, 12:15:54 pm »
The more I think about this song, the more I think it had potential. It's got a nice beat. But the lyrics are exceptionally terrible, and I don't care for her singing voice. Still more than I can say for most songs these days, though.

It sounds like something someone threw in that Apple Garage Band app.  A bunch of dull instrumentation looped for the next 3 minutes.  Now, I'm not saying looping is bad or anything (in fact, I like a lot of rap beats), but it's so understated and those horns tossed in randomly annoy me to no end.  Really, the song is dependant on the vocals, and she's pretty bad.

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Re: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed
« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2017, 05:59:50 pm »
The more I think about this song, the more I think it had potential. It's got a nice beat. But the lyrics are exceptionally terrible, and I don't care for her singing voice. Still more than I can say for most songs these days, though.

It sounds like something someone threw in that Apple Garage Band app.  A bunch of dull instrumentation looped for the next 3 minutes.  Now, I'm not saying looping is bad or anything (in fact, I like a lot of rap beats), but it's so understated and those horns tossed in randomly annoy me to no end.  Really, the song is dependant on the vocals, and she's pretty bad.

Her pronunciation doesn't work well with the song. The long "a" sounds almost guttural when she does it. You're right, it takes a real downturn when the horns come in. I'd still say the tune is okay up until that point, it just needs a better singer. The lyrics vary from pretty good (the "I feel everything" part is catchy) to just awful ("I'm soaring, I'm sky-high").

It's also pretty repugnant visually. Not sure what the point of this music video was. The gelatinous blobs make it look like a toothpaste commercial.

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Re: Star Wars VIII: The Last Jed
« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2017, 09:06:26 pm »
The more I think about this song, the more I think it had potential. It's got a nice beat. But the lyrics are exceptionally terrible, and I don't care for her singing voice. Still more than I can say for most songs these days, though.

It sounds like something someone threw in that Apple Garage Band app.  A bunch of dull instrumentation looped for the next 3 minutes.  Now, I'm not saying looping is bad or anything (in fact, I like a lot of rap beats), but it's so understated and those horns tossed in randomly annoy me to no end.  Really, the song is dependant on the vocals, and she's pretty bad.

Her pronunciation doesn't work well with the song. The long "a" sounds almost guttural when she does it. You're right, it takes a real downturn when the horns come in. I'd still say the tune is okay up until that point, it just needs a better singer. The lyrics vary from pretty good (the "I feel everything" part is catchy) to just awful ("I'm soaring, I'm sky-high").

It's also pretty repugnant visually. Not sure what the point of this music video was. The gelatinous blobs make it look like a toothpaste commercial.

I saw someone once said it looked like a L'oreal commercial and that has been stuck in my head.

I think this type of song requires a voice that has soul and emotion.  It needs someone who has vocal range.

 

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