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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #480 on: August 14, 2017, 01:02:28 am »
Alright boys, let's take bets on who is dying from the A-team in next week's episode.

I think Beric and Thoros are the likely candidates with Tormund rounding them off as the tragic death of the episode.

It's not The Hound's time yet.

Jon...hehe no.

Gendry would make me upset considering the build up for so many seasons just to bring him back to die, that would be a cheap shot. I think he's gonna stick around.

Jorah would be strange considering he was just cured so why would they waste all that story just to have him die a couple episodes later? Eh, I don't think so, but he did get have that air of him saying his goodbyes to everyone (Tyrion giving him the coin is practically a dead ringer). I dunno, I would say not but I might be wrong here.

Agreed on this. Thoros dies first, followed by Beric. While zombie Hound might be interesting, that doesn't seem like enough of a send-off for his character. However, the fact that he's now with Jon and the boys exponentially increases the odds that he will find his way to King's Landing sometime soon...

As for predictions for next episode... Arya's going to accidentally play into Littlefinger's hands by confronting Sansa, so it all depends on what Sansa's reaction is going to be. We've been so excited about seeing these two characters together again onscreen, we've forgotten that they never really cared for one another growing up. If Littlefinger's plot succeeds, Bran is going to be the wrench in the workings. He's the only thing Littlefinger couldn't really plan against.

Arya is definitely confronting Sansa next episode. Although I don't see Littlefinger's plot working for him, I think it's only going to motivate Sansa to move against him. Considering the fact that there's only two episodes remaining this season, I think I'm going to say that Littlefinger is going to seem like he's about to one up Sansa, but in the end she's going to beat him and probably have him killed (maybe even killed by Arya).

I hope this is the case. If Arya really gets angry about Sansa's letter to Robb from season one, she might take some drastic action, and Sansa might even try to lock her up. We're in dangerous territory here.

Also, I have to ask... am I wrong, or has the valonqar prophecy never been mentioned in the show?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPCAfvHV-A0

The scene with Maggy is in it, but there's no mention of the little brother/hands wrapping around her throat, etc. If it's really important, why not include it at the time? It was the perfect moment to do so. Perhaps we've been putting too much stock in this prophecy...

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« Reply #481 on: August 14, 2017, 01:08:01 am »
Alright boys, let's take bets on who is dying from the A-team in next week's episode.

I think Beric and Thoros are the likely candidates with Tormund rounding them off as the tragic death of the episode.

It's not The Hound's time yet.

Jon...hehe no.

Gendry would make me upset considering the build up for so many seasons just to bring him back to die, that would be a cheap shot. I think he's gonna stick around.

Jorah would be strange considering he was just cured so why would they waste all that story just to have him die a couple episodes later? Eh, I don't think so, but he did get have that air of him saying his goodbyes to everyone (Tyrion giving him the coin is practically a dead ringer). I dunno, I would say not but I might be wrong here.

Agreed on this. Thoros dies first, followed by Beric. While zombie Hound might be interesting, that doesn't seem like enough of a send-off for his character. However, the fact that he's now with Jon and the boys exponentially increases the odds that he will find his way to King's Landing sometime soon...

As for predictions for next episode... Arya's going to accidentally play into Littlefinger's hands by confronting Sansa, so it all depends on what Sansa's reaction is going to be. We've been so excited about seeing these two characters together again onscreen, we've forgotten that they never really cared for one another growing up. If Littlefinger's plot succeeds, Bran is going to be the wrench in the workings. He's the only thing Littlefinger couldn't really plan against.

Arya is definitely confronting Sansa next episode. Although I don't see Littlefinger's plot working for him, I think it's only going to motivate Sansa to move against him. Considering the fact that there's only two episodes remaining this season, I think I'm going to say that Littlefinger is going to seem like he's about to one up Sansa, but in the end she's going to beat him and probably have him killed (maybe even killed by Arya).

I hope this is the case. If Arya really gets angry about Sansa's letter to Robb from season one, she might take some drastic action, and Sansa might even try to lock her up. We're in dangerous territory here.

Also, I have to ask... am I wrong, or has the valonqar prophecy never been mentioned in the show?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPCAfvHV-A0

The scene with Maggy is in it, but there's no mention of the little brother/hands wrapping around her throat, etc. If it's really important, why not include it at the time? It was the perfect moment to do so. Perhaps we've been putting too much stock in this prophecy...

Eh I wouldn't think too much of it. The books have been foreshadowing many future events, they even heavily foreshadowed The Red Wedding and guess what we got for that in the show: zilch. The Red Wedding was a complete surprise for show watchers. I expect the same with the Valonqar prophecy.

The only reason being is that omitting the foreshadowed stuff in favor of shock value has been something that Benioff and Weiss has done since the beginning of the show.

Plus the Valonqar prophecy as explained in the books was vague enough that it took people a bit to figure out that Jaime was the one the witch was referencing. In the show at that time it would have been a little too obvious and considering the much larger audience, it would have been deciphered in the span of a few episodes ruining that big shocking moment like the Red Wedding.

Don't put too much stock in them throwing that part out.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #482 on: August 14, 2017, 01:08:25 am »
I feel like Dany and her dragons will be the Ex Machina next episode and save Jon's crew. Her longing look at both him and Jorah could have been foreshadowing that she can't bear to just sit around and wait. 

http://imgur.com/a/C7vkk (a screencap from the Episode 6 trailer, there's fire)

Because otherwise, the only other way they're getting out of there is the frozen lake cracking open and all the undead falling into it. (though that also may be possible, as if you turn on captions for the Episode 6 trailer, at the end, it says [ICE CRACKING]. Though that could also be the language of the White Walkers or The Wall coming down)

Also, do you guys think Benjen might return one more time? There's a horse beyond the wall in the S7 trailer, and I don't think Jon's crew brought one. So that could be Benjen's, and he might assist them with getting back over The Wall, or fighting the undead.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #483 on: August 14, 2017, 01:34:20 am »
Alright, I'm just gonna say it.

I fucking love Littlefinger. He's the creepiest and slimiest dude around, but I can never get enough of his storyline. I can't believe I'm cheering for this guy, especially because I love Arya and Sansa, but I kinda am.

I'm hyped for next episode. Lots of set-up here, but this was still great. Not sure what's ahead for the season, with so many plot lines needing to be wrapped up.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #484 on: August 14, 2017, 01:37:26 am »
I'm still racking my brain trying to figure out what Littlefinger was trying to accomplish by giving Bran that dagger. Sansa's right... he doesn't just do things for no reason. He knows that Arya saw him at Harrenhal, and he knows that Bran has seen him do a whole bunch of dastardly deeds in the past. He knows it's only a matter of time before one or all of the Starks lose patience with him. So what does giving Bran the dagger do for him?

It would have made sense if he'd said "This belonged to Tyrion Lannister," because Jon just went off to see Tyrion and that would've made Jon look very suspicious. Why would he say he doesn't know who it belonged to? Is he going to try to find someone else to pin it on? If so, who? Did he intend for it to end up in Arya's possession?

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #485 on: August 14, 2017, 02:44:37 am »
Alright, I'm just gonna say it.

I fucking love Littlefinger. He's the creepiest and slimiest dude around, but I can never get enough of his storyline. I can't believe I'm cheering for this guy, especially because I love Arya and Sansa, but I kinda am.

I'm hyped for next episode. Lots of set-up here, but this was still great. Not sure what's ahead for the season, with so many plot lines needing to be wrapped up.
Yeah, I've heard some people say they're bored with him, but I really like Littlefinger as a character. He's probably the only person in the show whose motives are unclear at this point, and that makes his actions really interesting to me. I'm not entirely sure why he's doing everything he's doing (giving the dagger to Bran, leading Arya to the letter) and that mystery is kinda cool.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #486 on: August 14, 2017, 02:50:10 am »
All right... this is interesting.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #487 on: August 20, 2017, 10:18:26 pm »
This was the worst episode of GoT ever. I have no reservations about saying that.

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« Reply #488 on: August 20, 2017, 10:32:57 pm »
This was the worst episode of GoT ever. I have no reservations about saying that.
I had no doubt in my mind you would say this.

Personally, while I still have my reservations, I've warmed up to it. Think my expectations were a little too high.
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« Reply #489 on: August 20, 2017, 10:38:35 pm »
Yeah it really was a weak episode for one that was built up and hyped so much.

Only one person died and a dragon (which was predictable tbh), the showrunners seem to be afraid of killing characters.

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« Reply #490 on: August 20, 2017, 10:47:35 pm »
Yeah it really was a weak episode for one that was built up and hyped so much.

Only one person died and a dragon (which was predictable tbh), the showrunners seem to be afraid of killing characters.
It felt more like a straight action film than what I'm used to with Thrones. While I loved the first half of the episode, the action just didn't have the same feel as something like the loot train one. The logistics were just too questionable.

Was it fun to watch? Absolutely. I just expect more from the show at this point. I'll admit the dragon death was tough to watch, but so much of this episode was contrived and relied on seemingly deus ex everything.

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« Reply #491 on: August 20, 2017, 10:59:57 pm »
Can we talk about that Arya v Sansa storyline for one sec? Got to be one of the stupidest plots GoT has ever thrown our way. I'm talking Dorne stupid.

I kinda want Arya to die want now tbh.

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« Reply #492 on: August 20, 2017, 11:03:28 pm »
Yeah it really was a weak episode for one that was built up and hyped so much.

Only one person died and a dragon (which was predictable tbh), the showrunners seem to be afraid of killing characters.
It felt more like a straight action film than what I'm used to with Thrones. While I loved the first half of the episode, the action just didn't have the same feel as something like the loot train one. The logistics were just too questionable.

Was it fun to watch? Absolutely. I just expect more from the show at this point. I'll admit the dragon death was tough to watch, but so much of this episode was contrived and relied on seemingly deus ex everything.

I can say with no exaggeration that I did not enjoy one single scene in this episode. It felt like a sit-com that's gone on too long. Everyone gets to say their catchphrases; just going through the motions. Ooh, the Hound said "cunt! Hahaha!" Bazinga! It was Disney Wars-level fan service.

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Re: Game of Thrones
« Reply #493 on: August 20, 2017, 11:09:32 pm »
First review is up on RT.

"The episode offers up a battle between CGI dragons and CGI zombies, to pulpy effect but no moral consequence."

Big fat splat.

Could this episode go lower than Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken? I sure hope so. The writers deserve some serious critical backlash for this one.

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« Reply #494 on: August 20, 2017, 11:18:08 pm »
Yeah it really was a weak episode for one that was built up and hyped so much.

Only one person died and a dragon (which was predictable tbh), the showrunners seem to be afraid of killing characters.
It felt more like a straight action film than what I'm used to with Thrones. While I loved the first half of the episode, the action just didn't have the same feel as something like the loot train one. The logistics were just too questionable.

Was it fun to watch? Absolutely. I just expect more from the show at this point. I'll admit the dragon death was tough to watch, but so much of this episode was contrived and relied on seemingly deus ex everything.
I'm with you completely on this one. Even watching D&D talk about the episode after, they really made it sound like they had to force a lot of shit to make things work and it showed. There's just so much in the White Walker battle that's illogical (Jon surviving, Benjun ex machina etc.). Still though, I won't lie and say I didn't really enjoy the episode, since I did have a lot of fun watching it.
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« Reply #495 on: August 20, 2017, 11:30:18 pm »
First review is up on RT.

"The episode offers up a battle between CGI dragons and CGI zombies, to pulpy effect but no moral consequence."

Big fat splat.

Could this episode go lower than Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken? I sure hope so. The writers deserve some serious critical backlash for this one.
I'd say it's high points even out its lows, but you're 100% right that this is the most flawed episode in the series to date. Still prefer it over Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken though. Hopefully the events from this episode will even themselves out and prove worthwhile, just as many of the events in Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken did.

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« Reply #496 on: August 20, 2017, 11:44:55 pm »
First review is up on RT.

"The episode offers up a battle between CGI dragons and CGI zombies, to pulpy effect but no moral consequence."

Big fat splat.

Could this episode go lower than Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken? I sure hope so. The writers deserve some serious critical backlash for this one.
I'd say it's high points even out its lows, but you're 100% right that this is the most flawed episode in the series to date. Still prefer it over Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken though. Hopefully the events from this episode will even themselves out and prove worthwhile, just as many of the events in Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken did.

Too late. Jon bent the knee. I don't recall Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken ruining a character I've spent three years of my life rooting for.

Next two reviews are another splat and a fresh. If nothing else, the critics seem to understand that this one is of significantly lower quality than GoT is used to.

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« Reply #498 on: August 21, 2017, 12:01:37 am »
First review is up on RT.

"The episode offers up a battle between CGI dragons and CGI zombies, to pulpy effect but no moral consequence."

Big fat splat.

Could this episode go lower than Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken? I sure hope so. The writers deserve some serious critical backlash for this one.
I'd say it's high points even out its lows, but you're 100% right that this is the most flawed episode in the series to date. Still prefer it over Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken though. Hopefully the events from this episode will even themselves out and prove worthwhile, just as many of the events in Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken did.

Too late. Jon bent the knee. I don't recall Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken ruining a character I've spent three years of my life rooting for.

Next two reviews are another splat and a fresh. If nothing else, the critics seem to understand that this one is of significantly lower quality than GoT is used to.
Maybe it's because my feelings on Dany are fairly neutral, but the bending of the knee didn't bother me at all. If anything, it'll give the whole Sansa/Jon/Arya conflict more purpose.

I think the episode suffers most in comparison to other Thrones episodes. On its own its entertaining but ridiculous high fantasy, but if you compare it to something like Hardhome, it's a big disappointment.

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« Reply #499 on: August 21, 2017, 12:09:20 am »
First review is up on RT.

"The episode offers up a battle between CGI dragons and CGI zombies, to pulpy effect but no moral consequence."

Big fat splat.

Could this episode go lower than Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken? I sure hope so. The writers deserve some serious critical backlash for this one.
I'd say it's high points even out its lows, but you're 100% right that this is the most flawed episode in the series to date. Still prefer it over Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken though. Hopefully the events from this episode will even themselves out and prove worthwhile, just as many of the events in Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken did.

Too late. Jon bent the knee. I don't recall Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken ruining a character I've spent three years of my life rooting for.

Next two reviews are another splat and a fresh. If nothing else, the critics seem to understand that this one is of significantly lower quality than GoT is used to.
Maybe it's because my feelings on Dany are fairly neutral, but the bending of the knee didn't bother me at all. If anything, it'll give the whole Sansa/Jon/Arya conflict more purpose.

I think the episode suffers most in comparison to other Thrones episodes. On its own its entertaining but ridiculous high fantasy, but if you compare it to something like Hardhome, it's a big disappointment.

Even if you feel "neutral" about her, this should irritate you. There has been no hard evidence for this entire show as to why Daenerys is a ruler who should be respected or admired. The fact that so many genuinely likable characters are now mindlessly following her does not make her look better; rather, it makes them look worse. She is the most poorly-written character on the show, and she is portrayed by the worst actress out of the entire main cast. What exactly convinced Jon to bend the knee this episode? Because she has dragons? Hard to forget, seeing as she reminds us "I have three very large dragons" every single fucking episode.

Also, I cannot for the life of me understand what was going through the writers' heads when they wrote Arya's scenes in this season. Holy crap, this was terrible. Arguably the worst aspect of the season thus far.

 

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