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Author Topic: So, a piece of Hellboy fan fiction about the fish-man having sex with a deaf woman won Best Picture  (Read 330 times)

Charles Longboat Jr.

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It's definitely the most predictable BP winner since The Fartist.
I didn't see the Fartist.  Probably for good.
I've always found Mierda Del Toro overrated but this...this was something else.  This was offensively bad.  Don't know why I watched it over Blade Runner 2049 (which I still want to see).
Is Blade Runner 2049 still in theaters where you live? I thought its theatrical run ended at least a month ago.

What’s your rating for TSoW?

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Is Blade Runner 2049 still in theaters where you live? I thought its theatrical run ended at least a month ago.

What’s your rating for TSoW?
I might be able to go to a theatre that screens older films and see it, otherwise I'll just wait until Netflix or whatever.

As for Shape of Water...expectations really affect the experience.  Even though I didn't exactly have high expectations, the fact that it got rave reviews, won best picture, and had a fantastic cast, I at least expected something decent.  What I got was one a film that disappointed and even pіssed me off at every single opportunity.  I can't think of a film from 2017 that gave me such an overall negative experience...I'll go with 1/10, for Michael Shannon's performance and the solid cinematography.
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Is Blade Runner 2049 still in theaters where you live? I thought its theatrical run ended at least a month ago.

What’s your rating for TSoW?
I might be able to go to a theatre that screens older films and see it, otherwise I'll just wait until Netflix or whatever.

As for Shape of Water...expectations really affect the experience.  Even though I didn't exactly have high expectations, the fact that it got rave reviews, won best picture, and had a fantastic cast, I at least expected something decent.  What I got was one a film that disappointed and even pіssed me off at every single opportunity.  I can't think of a film from 2017 that gave me such an overall negative experience...I'll go with 1/10, for Michael Shannon's performance and the solid cinematography.
Blade Runner should be on DVD now (assuming that Canada uses the same theatrical/DVD release scheduling that America does), though I would definitely seek it out in some theatrical format if possible.

I have to say, that’s an awfully harsh rating, but speaking as someone who enjoyed the film its hype is excessive. For me the cast and the execution of the picture overpowered its weak ending and admitted lack of risk taking (I was able to overlook the latter the same way I did for La La Land due to its sincere focus on escapism). I will admit that its commentary, which boils down to “Look at how marginalized these groups were back then and might still be now!” isn’t as deep as either Del Toro or John think it is (sorry.) Perhaps it might be residual salt on my end since Phantom Thread deserved all of Oscars TSoW won.

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Blade Runner should be on DVD now (assuming that Canada uses the same theatrical/DVD release scheduling that America does), though I would definitely seek it out in some theatrical format if possible.

I have to say, that’s an awfully harsh rating, but speaking as someone who enjoyed the film its hype is excessive. For me the cast and the execution of the picture overpowered its weak ending and admitted lack of risk taking (I was able to overlook the latter the same way I did for La La Land due to its sincere focus on escapism). I will admit that its commentary, which boils down to “Look at how marginalized these groups were back then and might still be now!” isn’t as deep as either Del Toro or John think it is (sorry.) Perhaps it might be residual salt on my end since Phantom Thread deserved all of Oscars TSoW won.
I appreciate when films are able to put social commentary into their films as long as they're subtle enough to not be overly preachy.  Shape of Water failed miserably at this - the liberal pandering was haphazardly thrown into nearly every scene, usually not even fitting in with the storyline or the characters well at all.  The bigger issue though, is that all of the commentary that it had was so mind-numbingly unoriginal and uninspired - apparently talking about women and minorities being oppressed is what the morons over at the academy crave even though it's talked about on a constant basis and brought up in countless other films.  As films need some degree of originality for me to enjoy them, the commentary within the film also needs some semblance of originality.  And Shape of Water had absolutely nothing original to say.  And these aren't even nearly my biggest problems with the film...I could go on forever with why I gave it a 1/10.

2017 was a very disappointing year for me in general.  It started out with some promise, as I enjoyed some of the spring blockbusters enough (most notably Logan and Kong: Skull Island) but I think it managed to be even worse than 2016.  I'll hold final judgement until I see the handful of 2017 films that I still need to watch.  Even Phantom Thread disappointed me - I still enjoyed it, I've just come to expect more from PTA.  I'd probably give it a 6/10, and would definitely rewatch.

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This film is to Hellboy as 50 Shades of Grey is to Twilight.
I'm also pretty surprised how accurate this statement turned out to be.

 

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