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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #1060 on: July 13, 2017, 10:31:20 pm »
Rob Zombie initially didn't plan on making a sequel to his Halloween remake, although Tyler Mane immediately signed onto a sequel assuming that Zombie would come back. Dimension Films and producer Malek Akkad hired various writers to come up with drafts for the sequel, none of which were satisfactory to them. Akkad and the Weinstein brothers then turned to French horror directors Alexandre Bustillo and Julien Muary, whose film Inside had recently been bought for distribution by The Weinstein Company. According to Akkad, the producers really wanted Zombie to return, as Akkad felt that there was something lost in translation when the French filmmakers took over the project. Executive producer Matthew Stein then told Zombie that things weren't going good for the film. Zombie decided that since they were going to make it anyway, he would return for the sequel as he didn't want anyone ruining his vision. After his work on the first film, Zombie had earned the trust of Akkad, who told him to ignore any rules they had set for him on the previous film. Akkad said that he wanted Zombie to move the franchise away from some of its established rules.
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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #1061 on: July 19, 2017, 06:36:47 pm »
Rebecca Ferguson was originally considered to play Daniels in Alien: Covenant before Katherine Waterston was cast.
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« Reply #1062 on: July 19, 2017, 06:39:42 pm »
The original treatment for Alien: Covenant, as revealed by producer and director Ridley Scott in 2012, when the film was still in development, was to be a more faithful sequel to Prometheus. Titled Paradise Lost, it would have drifted even further from the Alien mythology, and focused almost exclusively on the backstory of the Engineers, the origins of humanity, and how the Engineers created humans and Xenomorphs. The prequels would then conclude with a film that ties itself to the original Alien films. Scott pursued this idea because he felt that the Alien franchise lost its touch and was overdone and overexposed, and as such, wanted to try a different approach. However, due to the mixed fan response to Prometheus, Scott abandoned this direction and took a different approach instead, specifically to reintroduce the Alien mythos much sooner, with the classic Xenomorph.
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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #1063 on: July 19, 2017, 06:43:13 pm »
Rebecca Ferguson was originally considered to play Daniels in Alien: Covenant before Katherine Waterston was cast.

Two Alien films from her in one year would've been something.
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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #1064 on: July 19, 2017, 06:46:32 pm »
Rebecca Ferguson was originally considered to play Daniels in Alien: Covenant before Katherine Waterston was cast.

They couldn't afford premium so they went with store brand.
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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #1065 on: July 20, 2017, 12:32:23 am »
The original treatment for Alien: Covenant, as revealed by producer and director Ridley Scott in 2012, when the film was still in development, was to be a more faithful sequel to Prometheus. Titled Paradise Lost, it would have drifted even further from the Alien mythology, and focused almost exclusively on the backstory of the Engineers, the origins of humanity, and how the Engineers created humans and Xenomorphs. The prequels would then conclude with a film that ties itself to the original Alien films. Scott pursued this idea because he felt that the Alien franchise lost its touch and was overdone and overexposed, and as such, wanted to try a different approach. However, due to the mixed fan response to Prometheus, Scott abandoned this direction and took a different approach instead, specifically to reintroduce the Alien mythos much sooner, with the classic Xenomorph.
I would have preferred his original idea.
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« Reply #1066 on: July 20, 2017, 12:43:41 am »
The original treatment for Alien: Covenant, as revealed by producer and director Ridley Scott in 2012, when the film was still in development, was to be a more faithful sequel to Prometheus. Titled Paradise Lost, it would have drifted even further from the Alien mythology, and focused almost exclusively on the backstory of the Engineers, the origins of humanity, and how the Engineers created humans and Xenomorphs. The prequels would then conclude with a film that ties itself to the original Alien films. Scott pursued this idea because he felt that the Alien franchise lost its touch and was overdone and overexposed, and as such, wanted to try a different approach. However, due to the mixed fan response to Prometheus, Scott abandoned this direction and took a different approach instead, specifically to reintroduce the Alien mythos much sooner, with the classic Xenomorph.
I would have preferred his original idea.
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« Reply #1067 on: July 20, 2017, 12:46:19 am »
The original treatment for Alien: Covenant, as revealed by producer and director Ridley Scott in 2012, when the film was still in development, was to be a more faithful sequel to Prometheus. Titled Paradise Lost, it would have drifted even further from the Alien mythology, and focused almost exclusively on the backstory of the Engineers, the origins of humanity, and how the Engineers created humans and Xenomorphs. The prequels would then conclude with a film that ties itself to the original Alien films. Scott pursued this idea because he felt that the Alien franchise lost its touch and was overdone and overexposed, and as such, wanted to try a different approach. However, due to the mixed fan response to Prometheus, Scott abandoned this direction and took a different approach instead, specifically to reintroduce the Alien mythos much sooner, with the classic Xenomorph.
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« Reply #1068 on: July 20, 2017, 12:50:25 am »
Rebecca Ferguson was originally considered to play Daniels in Alien: Covenant before Katherine Waterston was cast.

They couldn't afford premium so they went with store brand.
Even if they could afford premium, you'd have the same movie.
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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #1069 on: July 20, 2017, 12:52:42 am »
The original treatment for Alien: Covenant, as revealed by producer and director Ridley Scott in 2012, when the film was still in development, was to be a more faithful sequel to Prometheus. Titled Paradise Lost, it would have drifted even further from the Alien mythology, and focused almost exclusively on the backstory of the Engineers, the origins of humanity, and how the Engineers created humans and Xenomorphs. The prequels would then conclude with a film that ties itself to the original Alien films. Scott pursued this idea because he felt that the Alien franchise lost its touch and was overdone and overexposed, and as such, wanted to try a different approach. However, due to the mixed fan response to Prometheus, Scott abandoned this direction and took a different approach instead, specifically to reintroduce the Alien mythos much sooner, with the classic Xenomorph.
Never compromise because of the fans. 
I agree that he shouldn't have compromised his vision, but I understand why he did it. Another "Prometheus" would be harder to sell than another "Alien", and I'm sure another film without a Xenomorph would've done even more poorly than Covenant at the box office.

Still, as one of like five people in the world who liked Prometheus, I'm very sad he didn't continue on the trajectory he started on.
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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #1070 on: July 20, 2017, 01:10:45 am »
The original treatment for Alien: Covenant, as revealed by producer and director Ridley Scott in 2012, when the film was still in development, was to be a more faithful sequel to Prometheus. Titled Paradise Lost, it would have drifted even further from the Alien mythology, and focused almost exclusively on the backstory of the Engineers, the origins of humanity, and how the Engineers created humans and Xenomorphs. The prequels would then conclude with a film that ties itself to the original Alien films. Scott pursued this idea because he felt that the Alien franchise lost its touch and was overdone and overexposed, and as such, wanted to try a different approach. However, due to the mixed fan response to Prometheus, Scott abandoned this direction and took a different approach instead, specifically to reintroduce the Alien mythos much sooner, with the classic Xenomorph.
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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #1071 on: July 20, 2017, 01:13:09 am »
Ridley Scott originally wanted his protégé Carl Erik Rinsch to make his directorial debut with Prometheus, but 20th Century FOX objected strongly to this, only wanting to move forward with the project if Scott was the director.
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« Reply #1072 on: July 20, 2017, 01:16:58 am »
Ridley Scott initially wanted Max von Sydow for the role of Peter Weyland in Prometheus. However, Scott and writer Damon Lindelof came up with a scene where David would interface with Weyland while in hypersleep, and that Weyland's dream would reflect his looks as a younger man since he is obsessed with immortality. Though the scene was cut from the script and never filmed, Guy Pearce had already been cast in the role and thus underwent extensive make-up to look like an old man. Fortunately, Pearce was also allowed to appear as the younger Peter Weyland giving a TED Talk in one of the film's promotional clips. A longer version of this clip is available as a bonus feature on home video.
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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #1073 on: July 20, 2017, 01:18:57 am »
James Franco was originally considered for the role of Charlie Holloway in Prometheus before Logan Marshall-Green was cast.
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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #1074 on: July 20, 2017, 01:25:56 am »
James Franco was originally considered for the role of Charlie Holloway in Prometheus before Logan Marshall-Green was cast.

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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #1075 on: July 20, 2017, 01:28:02 am »
Rebecca Ferguson was originally considered to play Daniels in Alien: Covenant before Katherine Waterston was cast.

They couldn't afford premium so they went with store brand.
Even if they could afford premium, you'd have the same movie.

Yes, but Rebecca Ferguson has natural charisma and has shown talent with action choreography.  Waterson is way too stiff.  If they were desperately trying to go for the same old Ridley gimmick, they should've casted someone who is able to emote at least. 
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« Reply #1076 on: July 20, 2017, 01:28:33 am »
discount Tom Hardy.
And then months later, Jai Courtney ended up taking that title away from him.
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« Reply #1077 on: July 20, 2017, 01:30:28 am »
discount Tom Hardy.
And then months later, Jai Courtney ended up taking that title away from him.

If Tom Hardy is premium membership, Jai Courtney is regular membership.  Greene is free 7 day trial.
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« Reply #1078 on: July 20, 2017, 03:11:34 am »
The original treatment for Alien: Covenant, as revealed by producer and director Ridley Scott in 2012, when the film was still in development, was to be a more faithful sequel to Prometheus. Titled Paradise Lost, it would have drifted even further from the Alien mythology, and focused almost exclusively on the backstory of the Engineers, the origins of humanity, and how the Engineers created humans and Xenomorphs. The prequels would then conclude with a film that ties itself to the original Alien films. Scott pursued this idea because he felt that the Alien franchise lost its touch and was overdone and overexposed, and as such, wanted to try a different approach. However, due to the mixed fan response to Prometheus, Scott abandoned this direction and took a different approach instead, specifically to reintroduce the Alien mythos much sooner, with the classic Xenomorph.
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« Reply #1079 on: July 20, 2017, 03:16:55 am »
In 2009, Eli Roth was planning on making a sci-fi disaster thriller titled Endangered Species, which he compared to Transformers and Cloverfield but said it would be more grounded. In 2013, Roth confirmed work on the project had been suspended so he could focus on The Green Inferno. News on the project ended up petering out since then.
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