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Author Topic: The Movie/TV Facts Thread  (Read 9769 times)

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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #980 on: March 10, 2017, 10:59:28 pm »
Former FOX head honcho Tom Rothman rejected a James Cameron/Ridley Scott collaboration on a new Alien sequel in favor of giving the greenlight to Paul W.S. Anderson's Alien vs. Predator.

This is depressing.
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« Reply #981 on: March 10, 2017, 11:50:35 pm »
Former FOX head honcho Tom Rothman rejected a James Cameron/Ridley Scott collaboration on a new Alien sequel in favor of giving the greenlight to Paul W.S. Anderson's Alien vs. Predator.
This is depressing.
Tom Rothman's history of horrible management at FOX is astonishing:

- Rushing X-Men: The Last Stand into production as retaliation for Bryan Singer heading off to make Superman Returns (because Singer was getting sick and tired of Rothman's BS; Rothman took over a fucking year to negotiate a deal with Singer for him to direct X3)
- Cutting 45 minutes out of Kingdom of Heaven
- Cutting a half-hour out of Daredevil and having it re-edited to have it look more like Spider-Man when it was originally meant to be a more dark and violent film
- Almost convincing I, Robot director Alex Proyas to give up filmmaking
- Embarrassing League of Extraordinary Gentlemen director Stephen Norrington so much that he lost his love of making films and retired from directing
- Making Galactus a cloud in Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
- Rejecting Peyton Reed's proposal for a Fantastic Four film that was set in the 60's and was actually faithful to the source material
- Sewing Deadpool's mouth shut in X-Men Origins: Wolverine and butting heads with Gavin Hood throughout production, scrapping his original grim, gritty take in favor of mindless spectacle
- Rushing and micromanaging production on X-Men: First Class
- Slashing the first X-Men's budget and wanting it to fail so FOX could take a tax write-off and sell the rights back to Marvel
- Refusing to give Deadpool the greenlight out of spite for Ryan Reynolds
- Slashing Elektra's budget and forcing rewrites (Jennifer Garner and one of the credited writers, Stu Zicherman, wanted to make a more intelligent, bigger-budgeted film and were absolutely embarrassed by the end result)
- Thinking giant robots or beings like Galactus wouldn't sell (until Transformers, a property he turned down, proved him wrong)
- Thinking Titanic and Avatar also wouldn't sell (!)
- Wanting AvP to be set on contemporary Earth and be PG-13
- Cutting Live Free or Die Hard down to a PG-13 rating
- One of those responsible for cancelling Firefly
- Chasing Dean Devlin & Roland Emmerich off Independence Day 2 (granted the one we eventually got was crap, but that's beside the point)

Even Rupert Murdoch of all people said he was a bit too much of an autocrat. Rothman makes Ike Perlmutter look perfectly fine by comparison. He's like the Donald Trump of studio execs. And now he's gone from FOX to Sony, who rejected Michael De Luca & Doug Belgrad in favor of him. And whaddya know, during his management at Sony, a lot of their films flopped (Ghostbusters, Passengers, Inferno, Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk, The Brothers Grimsby, et cetera).
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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #982 on: March 11, 2017, 09:54:16 am »
butting heads with Gavin Hood throughout production, scrapping his original grim, gritty take in favor of mindless spectacle
More on this: apparently things got so bad between Rothman and Hood that Hood left the production before filming was even completed, and rumor has it that the rest of the film was completed and ghost-directed by Richard Donner, and if that's true, that certainly explains his executive producer credit in the finished product.
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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #983 on: March 11, 2017, 12:08:44 pm »
Regular Todd Phillips collaborator Lawrence Sher provided additional photography for Gareth Edwards' Godzilla.

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« Reply #984 on: March 11, 2017, 12:14:27 pm »
Directors considered for the Fantastic Four gig before Tim Story was hired included Chris Columbus (who remained onboard as executive producer through his 1492 Pictures production company), Peter Segal, Sam Weisman, Raja Gosnell, and as mentioned in an above post, Peyton Reed.

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« Reply #985 on: March 11, 2017, 12:21:22 pm »
Bryan Singer, Brett Ratner, Alexandre Aja, Len Wiseman, and Zack Snyder were all considered to direct X-Men Origins: Wolverine before Gavin Hood was hired. While Singer and Ratner were both interested in returning to the franchise, Singer ultimately turned the offer down because he was busy with other projects. Snyder also turned it down, due to him working on Watchmen at the time.

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« Reply #986 on: March 11, 2017, 12:27:45 pm »
Hugh Jackman was first attached to Prisoners with Antoine Fuqua directing, but both dropped out. After that, Leonardo DiCaprio was attached for a long time, but also dropped out. Later, Mark Wahlberg and Christian Bale were both set to star with Bryan Singer directing, but Singer left and Wahlberg and Bale opted to make The Fighter instead. After several years in development, Jackman returned to the project and Wahlberg stayed onboard as an executive producer. Jessica Chastain was rumored to be up for the role of Jackman's character Keller Dover's wife Grace before Maria Bello was cast instead.

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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #987 on: March 11, 2017, 12:41:10 pm »
Alex Proyas was considered to direct X-Men: The Last Stand after Bryan Singer left to make Superman Returns, but he turned it down.

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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #988 on: March 11, 2017, 02:23:03 pm »
James Cameron's practice of testing his directors of photography by darkening the film originated during the filming of Aliens. Cameron wanted to use a particular type of film stock, but cinematographer Dick Bush ignored him and used a different type. The end result was that the footage shot ended up being unusably dark. After Bush was fired due to an unrelated incident and Adrian Biddle replaced him, Cameron found some of the film in a storage cupboard and had the camera operators use it instead of the film Biddle had told them to use. Biddle noticed what was going on after the first take and compensated with extra lighting, hoping to hide his "mistake" from Cameron, who owned up at the end of the day. Cameron later did the same to Mikael Salomon on The Abyss and to Russell Carpenter on True Lies.
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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #989 on: March 11, 2017, 02:35:07 pm »
Zack Snyder wanted to make S.W.A.T. his directorial debut and also wanted it to be rated R. Sony wanted a PG-13 film, so Snyder turned down the offer.

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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #990 on: March 11, 2017, 02:37:52 pm »
David Fincher and Joe Carnahan were attached to direct Mission: Impossible III before J.J. Abrams was hired. Fincher left due to both creative differences and wanting to do another film instead. When Carnahan was attached, Kenneth Branagh, Carrie-Anne Moss, and Scarlett Johansson were cast. Carnahan and Paramount disputed over the film's tone, leading to Carnahan's departure in 2004. When Carnahan left, Branagh, Moss, and Johansson left with him.
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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #991 on: March 11, 2017, 03:32:09 pm »
Before helping Gareth Edwards with rewrites and reshoots on Rogue One, Tony Gilroy did the same for Godzilla.

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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #992 on: March 11, 2017, 06:03:33 pm »
Kathryn Bigelow, Robert Rodriguez, Tomas Alfredson, Allen & Albert Hughes, Pierre Morel, James McTeigue, Dennis Iliadis, and Scott Stewart were all considered by FOX to direct Rise of the Planet of the Apes before Rupert Wyatt signed on.

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« Reply #993 on: March 11, 2017, 06:10:45 pm »
Following the box office success of Independence Day, FOX wanted Roland Emmerich to direct Alien vs. Predator, but he turned the offer down, choosing to work on other projects.

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Re: The Movie/TV Facts Thread
« Reply #994 on: March 11, 2017, 06:16:53 pm »
Terminator 2 scribe William Wisher provided uncredited rewrites to the scripts for Die Hard with a Vengeance and Live Free or Die Hard, with Wisher serving as executive producer on the latter.

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« Reply #995 on: March 12, 2017, 10:18:26 pm »
Donnie Darko director Richard Kelly was one of the producers of the Bobcat Goldthwait dark comedy-drama World's Greatest Dad.

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« Reply #996 on: March 21, 2017, 01:52:22 pm »
The Quicksilver sequence in X-Men: Apocalypse was apparently so expensive to film that it took a very large amount of the production budget, resulting in the rest of the film to be shot as cheaply as possible in order to not accidentally go over-budget.

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« Reply #997 on: March 22, 2017, 11:19:48 pm »
On the set of Out for Justice, Steven Seagal claimed that due to his Aikido training, he was immune to being choked unconscious. It has been alleged that at some point stunt coordinator Gene LeBell heard about the claim and gave Seagal the opportunity to prove it. LeBell is said to have placed his arms around Seagal's neck, and once Seagal said go, proceeded to choke him unconscious. After refusing to comment for many years, LeBell confirmed the story in 2012 and said that after Seagal fell unconscious, he proceeded to defecate and urinate himself. Whenever Seagal has been asked about the incident, he has constantly denied the allegations.

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« Reply #998 on: March 22, 2017, 11:26:08 pm »
According to Keenen Ivory Wayans, one time during production on The Glimmer Man, after waiting for a long time for Steven Seagal to finally show up on the set, Seagal appeared with a script and said that it was the greatest script he ever read in his entire life. When Wayans asked him who wrote it, Seagal responded by saying, "I did."

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« Reply #999 on: March 23, 2017, 07:46:22 am »
Drive was originally intended to be directed by Neil Burger and star Hugh Jackman. When they both left the project, they were replaced by Nicolas Winding Refn and Ryan Gosling respectively.

 

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