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Re: THE OFFICIAL MOVIE WATCHING THREAD
« Reply #5700 on: August 03, 2018, 06:58:35 pm »
Out of ten, Eighth Grade is the number in its title. The screenplay is authentically awkward and emotionally cathartic, and Elsie Fisher gives a great performance. Iím not fawning over it the way a lot of people are but itís definitely in my top ten of the year thus far.

I liked it a lot but also thought it went too over the top in terms of awkwardness and uncomfortableness.  I understand that itís the point but it was so incessant and made it hard to watch in some sections.  Still, itís a solid movie.
Thatís probably a matter of personal preference. Ultimately I found that to be a repudiation of the ďBorn in the wrong generationĒ mindset, which ultimately helps it reach a level of ubiquity that a lot of films in this genre fail to do.

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« Reply #5701 on: August 03, 2018, 10:28:05 pm »
Not sure what people on here thought of it, since I was gone at the time, but Infinity War was ass. At or near the bottom of Marvel's output for me.

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« Reply #5702 on: August 05, 2018, 03:00:32 pm »
Rush continues to get better on every rewatch, very solid 9/10.

Also, in case anyone's interested in checking it out, I wrote a fairly full Infinity War review since thinking about that movie some more made me mad .

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« Reply #5703 on: August 05, 2018, 06:49:14 pm »
Also, in case anyone's interested in checking it out, I wrote a fairly full Infinity War review since thinking about that movie some more made me mad .
I thought the film was good but not great (and a decidedly upper tier Marvel movie), so Iíll try to address some of the points.

1. I got the impression that Thanos was a sort of eco-terrorist of sorts, where his devotion to an ideology is what makes him more threatening combined with his invincibility. His motives have a more nihilistic bent to them; He probably doesnít care about people themselves, rather his perverted form of balance. The only people he actually seems to care about are his daughters (mostly Gamora, I guess), though again, he sacrifices them for said ideology. The easier answer is probably that Josh Brolin gave a suitably intimidating performance and that sticks in peopleís minds. Not sure if this sounds like JTís Age of Ultron copypasta, but hopefully that helps.

2. The invincibility thing is fair game, I suppose. Not that the target audience of these films care much about it. I will say that it helps contribute more to Thanos being an intimidating villain.

3. I feel that a film of this of scale will probably always have some sort of overstuffed elements, so the degree to which one finds them handled effectively is likely a matter of personal preference. I didnít find it too hard to follow. Meanwhile, I felt alone in not laughing at every single joke.

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« Reply #5704 on: August 05, 2018, 06:58:05 pm »
Iíve been having a foreign animation kick lately due to my library rentals, and started with the two Ghibli films I rented.

When Marnie Was There is a respectably melancholy, involving work that repackages the studioís themes in a manner that feels fresh. I like that while still mystical itís more pared down than, say, your average Miyazaki feature. The animation here is among their best, particularly in the expressiveness of the characters. I was a bit disappointed by the twist since I thought it was going in a more abstract direction than I expected but then didnít. Still though, itís a sizable step up from Mary and the Witcchís Flower, which is from the same director.

Only Yesterday, by contrast, is a very pensive slice of life film - perhaps to a fault. I was a bit restless during it and think it could have been trimmed fifteen to twenty minutes but I like the contrast in visuals between its present and past events as well as an interesting reversal of the whole ďWasnít childhood so eventful/Adulthood is so myopic and boring?Ē plot point that every single American drama about nostalgia and adolescence always beats into your head. I might consider it somewhat lower tier Ghibli right now but I can see myself rewatching appreciating it more in the future. Itís one of those films where I canít decide if itís closer to 7/10 or 8/10 range.

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« Reply #5705 on: August 06, 2018, 04:48:31 am »
Not sure what people on here thought of it, since I was gone at the time, but Infinity War was ass. At or near the bottom of Marvel's output for me.

Still haven't seen that.

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« Reply #5706 on: August 06, 2018, 09:00:37 am »
Not sure what people on here thought of it, since I was gone at the time, but Infinity War was ass. At or near the bottom of Marvel's output for me.

Still haven't seen that.
There's a zero percent chance that you like it but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

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« Reply #5707 on: August 06, 2018, 09:01:55 am »
Also, in case anyone's interested in checking it out, I wrote a fairly full Infinity War review since thinking about that movie some more made me mad .
I thought the film was good but not great (and a decidedly upper tier Marvel movie), so Iíll try to address some of the points.

1. I got the impression that Thanos was a sort of eco-terrorist of sorts, where his devotion to an ideology is what makes him more threatening combined with his invincibility. His motives have a more nihilistic bent to them; He probably doesnít care about people themselves, rather his perverted form of balance. The only people he actually seems to care about are his daughters (mostly Gamora, I guess), though again, he sacrifices them for said ideology. The easier answer is probably that Josh Brolin gave a suitably intimidating performance and that sticks in peopleís minds. Not sure if this sounds like JTís Age of Ultron copypasta, but hopefully that helps.

2. The invincibility thing is fair game, I suppose. Not that the target audience of these films care much about it. I will say that it helps contribute more to Thanos being an intimidating villain.

3. I feel that a film of this of scale will probably always have some sort of overstuffed elements, so the degree to which one finds them handled effectively is likely a matter of personal preference. I didnít find it too hard to follow. Meanwhile, I felt alone in not laughing at every single joke.
I mean, you may be right about Thanos, I was basing that largely off my brother (big Marvel fan) talking about how Thanos was a good villain because of his "complex motivations and character" that "made you think about what he was doing". Now, if we're being honest, I'm basically the target for who Thanos' plot should appeal to, but in reality there's just nothing to sympathize with. He could make things better for people just as easily but chooses to plot to kill them instead. There's nothing to sympathize with there and I don't give a shit that he likes his daughter; maybe if he wasn't trying to destroy half the universe his daughter would've gone along with his plan. I know I talked about it in my Letterboxd review, but there really is a good film in here somewhere, in which Thanos actually wants to collect the stones in order to create more resources/planets/whatever, forcing the Avengers to choose whether to stop him because it's too much power for one person, or to help. The balance thing has certainly proved to be memeable, but it doesn't really make much sense in terms of an ideology. That being said, I think you're right about Brolin's performance being good and that part of it winning people over.

You're right that any film like this will be overstuffed but I found all these subplots too much regardless. At least one or two could've been eliminated and the characters involved distributed elsewhere. And yeah, the humor was hit and miss for me, but I'm sure everyone was laughing opening weekend which is all that really matters for the mouse I suppose.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL MOVIE WATCHING THREAD
« Reply #5708 on: August 06, 2018, 12:42:12 pm »
Also, in case anyone's interested in checking it out, I wrote a fairly full Infinity War review since thinking about that movie some more made me mad .
I thought the film was good but not great (and a decidedly upper tier Marvel movie), so Iíll try to address some of the points.

1. I got the impression that Thanos was an eco-terrorist of sorts, where his devotion to an ideology is what makes him more threatening combined with his invincibility. His motives have a more nihilistic bent to them; He probably doesnít care about people themselves, rather his perverted form of balance. The only people he actually seems to care about are his daughters (mostly Gamora, I guess), though again, he sacrifices them for said ideology. The easier answer is probably that Josh Brolin gave a suitably intimidating performance and that sticks in peopleís minds. Not sure if this sounds like JTís Age of Ultron copypasta, but hopefully that helps.

2. The invincibility thing is fair game, I suppose. Not that the target audience of these films care much about it. I will say that it helps contribute more to Thanos being an intimidating villain.

3. I feel that a film of this of scale will probably always have some sort of overstuffed elements, so the degree to which one finds them handled effectively is likely a matter of personal preference. I didnít find it too hard to follow. Meanwhile, I felt alone in not laughing at every single joke.
I mean, you may be right about Thanos, I was basing that largely off my brother (big Marvel fan) talking about how Thanos was a good villain because of his "complex motivations and character" that "made you think about what he was doing". Now, if we're being honest, I'm basically the target for who Thanos' plot should appeal to, but in reality there's just nothing to sympathize with. He could make things better for people just as easily but chooses to plot to kill them instead. There's nothing to sympathize with there and I don't give a shit that he likes his daughter; maybe if he wasn't trying to destroy half the universe his daughter would've gone along with his plan. I know I talked about it in my Letterboxd review, but there really is a good film in here somewhere, in which Thanos actually wants to collect the stones in order to create more resources/planets/whatever, forcing the Avengers to choose whether to stop him because it's too much power for one person, or to help. The balance thing has certainly proved to be memeable, but it doesn't really make much sense in terms of an ideology. That being said, I think you're right about Brolin's performance being good and that part of it winning people over.
Youíre not wrong that the whole creation of resources plotline probably would have been a more multifaceted philosophical dilemma, though I think his motives arenít necessarily the sympathetic part of his character due to his blatant fatalism. Ultimately his motives in the final product are ultimately a streamlining of his goals in the comics, where heís in love with a personified Death, while trying to stay close to them in spirit.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL MOVIE WATCHING THREAD
« Reply #5709 on: August 06, 2018, 12:45:00 pm »
Fantastic Planet was pretty wild. I found most of its commentary to be rather surface level (partially because of its lean 72 minute runtime) but the trippy visuals and unique soundtrack sell it as a singular experience. I would have been willing to watch another hour of it.

I also watched the original Ghost in the Shell. I donít know if I was just tired when I watched it but I feel I need to watch it again before I settle my thoughts.

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« Reply #5710 on: August 06, 2018, 02:27:04 pm »
He could make things better for people just as easily but chooses to plot to kill them instead.

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« Reply #5711 on: August 06, 2018, 04:18:22 pm »
Also, in case anyone's interested in checking it out, I wrote a fairly full Infinity War review since thinking about that movie some more made me mad .
I thought the film was good but not great (and a decidedly upper tier Marvel movie), so Iíll try to address some of the points.

1. I got the impression that Thanos was an eco-terrorist of sorts, where his devotion to an ideology is what makes him more threatening combined with his invincibility. His motives have a more nihilistic bent to them; He probably doesnít care about people themselves, rather his perverted form of balance. The only people he actually seems to care about are his daughters (mostly Gamora, I guess), though again, he sacrifices them for said ideology. The easier answer is probably that Josh Brolin gave a suitably intimidating performance and that sticks in peopleís minds. Not sure if this sounds like JTís Age of Ultron copypasta, but hopefully that helps.

2. The invincibility thing is fair game, I suppose. Not that the target audience of these films care much about it. I will say that it helps contribute more to Thanos being an intimidating villain.

3. I feel that a film of this of scale will probably always have some sort of overstuffed elements, so the degree to which one finds them handled effectively is likely a matter of personal preference. I didnít find it too hard to follow. Meanwhile, I felt alone in not laughing at every single joke.
I mean, you may be right about Thanos, I was basing that largely off my brother (big Marvel fan) talking about how Thanos was a good villain because of his "complex motivations and character" that "made you think about what he was doing". Now, if we're being honest, I'm basically the target for who Thanos' plot should appeal to, but in reality there's just nothing to sympathize with. He could make things better for people just as easily but chooses to plot to kill them instead. There's nothing to sympathize with there and I don't give a shit that he likes his daughter; maybe if he wasn't trying to destroy half the universe his daughter would've gone along with his plan. I know I talked about it in my Letterboxd review, but there really is a good film in here somewhere, in which Thanos actually wants to collect the stones in order to create more resources/planets/whatever, forcing the Avengers to choose whether to stop him because it's too much power for one person, or to help. The balance thing has certainly proved to be memeable, but it doesn't really make much sense in terms of an ideology. That being said, I think you're right about Brolin's performance being good and that part of it winning people over.
Youíre not wrong that the whole creation of resources plotline probably would have been a more multifaceted philosophical dilemma, though I think his motives arenít necessarily the sympathetic part of his character due to his blatant fatalism. Ultimately his motives in the final product are ultimately a streamlining of his goals in the comics, where heís in love with a personified Death, while trying to stay close to them in spirit.
You're definitely correct that it would've made the movie even tougher to make since it makes the plot that much more complex, I just think it would've been a far more challenging and intriguing narrative. Maybe you're right that the motives aren't as important to the character as I'm implying here, I may have been extrapolating too much from my brother's point of view (he's a big Marvel fan so I assumed he spoke for much of the target audience). Also don't know anything about the comics so I can't contest that staying close to the originals may have been important to the screenwriters.

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« Reply #5712 on: August 06, 2018, 04:19:20 pm »
He could make things better for people just as easily but chooses to plot to kill them instead.


Disagree that this is ironic, but I knew I'd have to prepare for these jokes so ah... there it is I suppose.

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Re: THE OFFICIAL MOVIE WATCHING THREAD
« Reply #5713 on: August 07, 2018, 02:12:14 pm »
Watched Burn After Reading and It Follows over the last two days; incredibly different movies but both quite good in their own ways. "Burn" is a bit disjointed and ends quite suddenly, but it's consistently funny and Brad Pitt is awesome. It Follows has some stunning sequences and is impeccably directed and shot, although it's also paced rather slowly and one of the supporting characters is almost comically useless. Anyway, both are 7/10s.

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« Reply #5714 on: August 07, 2018, 08:08:48 pm »
Oldboy is absolutely insane (in perhaps the best way). I was invested for the entirety of the runtime, and greatly respect its inversion of genre tropes and itís unique visual style. Park Chan Wook is a madman.

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« Reply #5715 on: August 09, 2018, 02:34:46 am »
Watched Doctor Zhivago again. Gets better every time. I still can't get over the "Pasha" character.

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« Reply #5716 on: August 10, 2018, 06:01:45 pm »
Song of the Sea is a massive step up from The Secret of Kells on a visual and storytelling level. I think Tomm Moore is the unofficial heir to Hayao Miyazaki.

Our resident felon's return also reminded me that I watched Watership Down, which I was a bit disappointed with. I was invested overall though most of the characters are a bit dry and I think the film would have benefited more from going deeper with the unforgiving nature aspect (and excising the comic relief seagull).

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« Reply #5717 on: August 11, 2018, 12:12:41 am »
Watched The Graduate a few days ago. Hard to enjoy fully due to the moments that had me cringing harder than anything I've seen since Scott's Tots, but there's some great stuff in there for sure. Definitely picks up in the second half.

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« Reply #5718 on: August 12, 2018, 04:31:58 am »
BlacKkKlansman was a bit of a letdown, sadly. Really funny at times, but overlong and too politicized at the end. It's a shame, because I was really looking forward to it.
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« Reply #5719 on: August 14, 2018, 01:24:01 pm »
Prisoners is another great Villenueve film. Probably the most well rounded ensemble of his English language films, and filled with the same atmosphere, complex ethical dilemmas, and compelling storylines as any of his films. Probably an A.

 

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