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The Sixth Annual Tutties Thread
« on: January 28, 2018, 03:38:42 am »
Previous.

In this sixth year of the annual Tutties awards, we celebrate the five-year anniversary of the group that would ultimately become the Movie Watcher's Oasis. Just think-- five years ago today, Chase Nyland and I were messing around with Matthew Preston on the Django Unchained forums. I was fifteen. Good times.

In this historic year, I've made some changes to these awards. Rather than mess around with determining what qualifies as "adapted" or "original" screenplays, I've decided to change the "adapted" category to the "non-original" category. This will encompass stories based on books, TV shows, or real life events. I think this will make things a whole lot simpler. Also, for the first time in Tutties history, a superhero film was not nominated for Worst Picture! As you'll see, however, this break from tradition was certainly deserved.

This year, for once, I believe I've decided on the winners (and losers) in every category before announcing the nominees. However, I'll be rewatching some of these films over the course of the next month to solidify my decisions, and I'll be watching a few more new films as well. I don't think I'll be changing any of these nominees, but it's possible that there will be some minor alterations, which I will indicate with the usual *.

Without further ado...

==THE NOMINEES==

Best Picture
Lady Bird
Lady Macbeth
I, Tonya
Wind River
Colossal

Worst Picture
Beatriz at Dinner
Okja
Kong: Skull Island
The Circle
The Book of Henry

Best Actor
Timothee Chalamet- Call Me By Your Name
Vince Vaughn- Brawl in Cell Block 99
James Franco- The Disaster Artist
Gary Oldman- Darkest Hour
Daniel Day-Lewis- Phantom Thread

Worst Actor
Dane Dehaan- Valerian
Tom Hiddleston- Kong: Skull Island
Johnny Depp- Pirates 5
Gerard Butler- Geostorm
Mark Wahlberg- Transformers 5

Best Actress
Saoirse Ronan- Lady Bird
Florence Pugh- Lady Macbeth
Frances McDormand- 3 Billboards
Aubrey Plaza- Ingrid Goes West
Margot Robbie- I, Tonya

Worst Actress
Emma Watson- The Circle/Beauty and the Beast
Salma Hayek- Beatriz at Dinner
Michelle Rodriguez- The Assignment
Cara Delevingne- Valerian
Ahn Seo-hyun- Okja

Best Supporting Actor
Sebastian Stan- I, Tonya
Willem Dafoe- The Florida Project
Idris Elba- Molly’s Game
Sam Rockwell- Three Billboards
Michael Shannon- The Shape of Water

Worst Supporting Actor
Tom Hanks- The Circle
Jake Gyllenhaal- Okja
Ellar Coltrane- The Circle
Jason Momoa- Justice League
Jaeden Lieberher- The Book of Henry

Best Supporting Actress
Elizabeth Olsen- Ingrid Goes West, Wind River
Allison Janney- I, Tonya
Laurie Metcalf- Lady Bird
Lesley Manville- Phantom Thread
Rooney Mara- A Ghost Story

Worst Supporting Actress
Tilda Swinton- Okja
Sarah Silverman- The Book of Henry, Battle of the Sexes
Kaya Scodelario- Pirates 5
Laura Haddock- Transformers 5
Kelly Marie Tran- Star Wars VIII

Best Director
Greta Gerwig- Lady Bird
Martin McDonagh- 3 Billboards
Denis Villeneuve- Blade Runner 2049
Christopher Nolan- Dunkirk
Paul Thomas Anderson- Phantom Thread

Worst Director
Bong Joon-ho- Okja
Miguel Arteta- Beatriz at Dinner
Zack Snyder- Justice League
Luc Besson- Valerian
Alex Kurtzman- The Mummy

Best Original Screenplay
Ingrid Goes West
Wind River
Lady Bird
Colossal
Logan Lucky

Worst Original Screenplay
Beatriz at Dinner
Okja
Bright
The Emoji Movie
The Book of Henry

Best Non-Original Screenplay
Lady Macbeth
The Disaster Artist
I, Tonya
Mother!
Call Me By Your Name

Worst Non-Original Screenplay
The Circle
Valerian
Kong: Skull Island
The Mummy
The Snowman

Best Cinematography
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
Phantom Thread
Mother!
Lady Macbeth

Worst Cinematography
Okja
Valerian
Kong: Skull Island
Justice League
The Mummy

Best Visual Effects
Colossal
Blade Runner 2049
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Pirates of the Caribbean 5
Ghost in the Shell

Worst Visual Effects
Okja
Valerian
Transformers 5
Justice League
The Mummy

Best Scene
Winston takes the Underground- Darkest Hour
Flicking Jason Sudekis- Colossal
Christine reads the letters- Lady Bird
Woody Harrelson in the barn- Three Billboards
Cold justice- Wind River

Worst Scene
“I can’t do this”- The Circle
Dance-off- The Emoji Movie
Hippo concentration camp- Okja
Neck stabbing- Beatriz at Dinner
Space Leia- Star Wars VIII

Best Line of Dialogue

“You seem surprised. Surprised the news of you opening your legs and your cunt for any worthless dog should've traveled across the county and reached my ears, but you opened your legs so wide, Katherine. And you've acted so very shamelessly and so very stupidly-- and you've begun to smell, Katherine. You've gotten so fat and foul-smelling it was inevitable the whole county would hear of your behavior." -Lady Macbeth

“Her eyes were green.” -Blade Runner 2049

“Do you ever leave this place, Mae? We used to go on adventures, and have fun, and see things, and you were brave and excited. But now it’s all filtered through this. Bye.” -The Circle

“It's ‘persons-of-color-torturing’ business these days, if you want to know. And I didn't torture nobody.” -Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

“That is total bullshit! George R.R. Martin was supposed to deliver The Winds of Winter to his publisher over two years ago!” -Logan Lucky

Worst Line of Dialogue

“This island is a perfect reflection of the heavens.” -Pirates 5

“What good is free when you’re an illegal immigrant far from home?” -Valerian

“Do you ever leave this place, Mae? We used to go on adventures, and have fun, and see things, and you were brave and excited. But now it’s all filtered through this. Bye.” -The Circle

“That’s how we’ll win. Not by fighting what we hate... but by saving what we love.” -Star Wars VIII

“Our legacy isn’t what we write on our resume or how many commas we have in our bank account. It’s who we’re lucky enough to have in our lives and what we can leave them with. The one thing we do know, we’re here now. So I say we do the best we can, and that’s what I think about my legacy.” -The Book of Henry

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Re: The Sixth Annual Tutties Thread
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2018, 03:43:12 am »
Jake Gyllenhaal does not belong in the worst supporting actor category.  His performance in Okja was a masterpiece.
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2018, 03:44:40 am »
Jake Gyllenhaal does not belong in the worst supporting actor category.  His performance in Okja was a masterpiece.

It hurt me to do that one, but I don't think I've ever cringed that much while watching a performance before. It was one of the most embarrassing displays I've ever seen.

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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2018, 03:47:46 am »
Jake Gyllenhaal does not belong in the worst supporting actor category.  His performance in Okja was a masterpiece.

It hurt me to do that one, but I don't think I've ever cringed that much while watching a performance before. It was one of the most embarrassing displays I've ever seen.

Have you seen Stronger?  He gives a great performance in that.
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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2018, 03:52:14 am »
Jake Gyllenhaal does not belong in the worst supporting actor category.  His performance in Okja was a masterpiece.

It hurt me to do that one, but I don't think I've ever cringed that much while watching a performance before. It was one of the most embarrassing displays I've ever seen.

Have you seen Stronger?  He gives a great performance in that.

Like Patriot's Day, I couldn't bring myself to have any interest in that movie. Unless a biopic does something really unique with its storytelling (like I, Tonya), I have a hard time with them if I'm not all that interested in the subject matter.

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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2018, 08:55:49 am »
I don't see CHiPS in any of the "best" categories.
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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2018, 10:38:03 am »
Nice picks. The double nomination for the line from The Circle made me chuckle. The line from BR2049 is great in theory but I can't help but nitpick the fact that
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Props for nominating Colossal in the Best VFX category. They looked great for a $12 million production.

Jake Gyllenhaal does not belong in the worst supporting actor category.  His performance in Okja was a masterpiece.

It hurt me to do that one, but I don't think I've ever cringed that much while watching a performance before. It was one of the most embarrassing displays I've ever seen.
I like the idea of his performance in theory, as I loved watching some of those Animal Planet shows like The Crocodile Hunter, but he really should have dropped the voice.

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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2018, 11:32:02 am »
My predictions (A work in progress):

Best Picture: Lady Bird (Lady Macbeth is a threatening spoiler, as is I, Tonya, but Lady Bird has more nominations in vital places like Best Director and Best Scene.)

Worst Picture
Okja (Although my runner-up pick, The Book of Henry, has EL&IC syndrome, it doesn't dabble in politics the way Okja does. Then again, the advocacy of murder as vigilante justice might very well be just as grating as "MEAT INDUSTRY BAD. CORPORATIONS BAD". We'll see.)

Best Actor
James Franco- The Disaster Artist (There are various worthy candidates here but Franco's performance elevates his film to a higher quality more so than the rest of the performances. Plus, Franco's scenes during the climax did move Tut to tears. Runner-up pick is Oldman for being on par with Lithgow in The Crown, as per Tut's words).

Worst Actor
Johnny Depp- Pirates 5 (The odds are against Marky Mark, as there hasn't been a repeat Worst Actor winner at the Tutties. I think that if even Johnny Depp is tired of his shtick then he might end up taking the prize. Hiddleston was too vanilla to outright win, and I doubt Butler is that much of a contender. DeHaan is my runner-up.)

Best Actress
Florence Pugh- Lady Macbeth (As with Wahlberg, no repeat winner has ever come in this category, and without Ronan's native Irish accent to turn the tide, this category is all but Pugh's. Ronan and Robbie are potential runner-up picks).

Worst Actress
Emma Watson- The Circle/Beauty and the Beast (Two performances so bad they changed Tut's opinion on her merits as an actress.)

Best Supporting Actor
Sam Rockwell- Three Billboards (One of the harder categories this year. However, I think Rockwell wins on the basis of having the hardest role; that being a racist, violent man-baby cop that seeks redemption. Plus, like any good Rockwell performance he has at least one scene dedicated to dancing with earbuds. Runner up pick is either DaFoe or Stan.)

Worst Supporting Actor
Ellar Coltrane- The Circle (This guy's career went the same way as Mercer did after this movie. Runner up is Gyllenhaal, who will evade this award out of pity.)

Best Supporting Actress
Allison Janney- I, Tonya (Tut approved of her winning the Golden Globe, having said nary a word about Metcalf's snub. The latter is my runner-up pick).

Worst Supporting Actress
Kelly Marie Tran- Star Wars VIII (I think Tilda Swinton will at least get credit for playing dual roles, which is a harder job than anyone here. Scodelario already won and I can't imagine Silverman being that terrible. Meanwhile, Tran gets saddled with the two worst lines in The Last Jedi, and has suffered a barrage of insults from Tut. Runner-up is Haddock though I'm not sure how terrible she is.)

Best Director
Greta Gerwig- Lady Bird (The only nominee with a Best Picture nominaton as well. Nolan and McDonaugh are out by virtue of having 7/10 films, while Villenueve won last year. PTA is the runner up.)

Worst Director
Zack Snyder- Justice League (Based on the Zack Snyder rule at the Tutties and as a bit of a potshot at Whedon for his superhero output and his Tweet about cancer patients. The historical precedent for the Tutties is the winner of this category never winning Worst Picture, with the exception being Snyder. Runner up is Miguel Arteta).

Best Original Screenplay
Lady Bird (the statistic favorite, as Inside Out, Short Term 12, and Grand Budapest Hotel won here too. Sheridan won last year, and aside from Colossal the others failed to make the Best Picture cut. Colossal is arguably more original/ambitious but certain plot elements fail to add up to much, while Lady Bird keeps it simple.)

Worst Original Screenplay
The Book of Henry (Although it lacks the questionable politicking of Okja and Beatriz it'll win based off sheer incompetence/ tonal dissonance. Plus, this may be the best chance of it getting a compensation award.)

Best Non-Original Screenplay: I, Tonya has an irreverent, more provocative script that brings previous contender The Big Short to mind. This would earn points for unconventionality, for it will certainly get hit with a Disagree tag from Moody.

Worst Non-Original Screenplay
The Circle (The only film of this list with an explicit, inept political bent in addition to terrible dialogue and characters. The ending, which either flip-flops over the message the film was pushing or reveals itself as using those ideas as an straw man to use in an anti-privacy piece, clinches the win. Plus, Dave Eggers will be a Tutties Loser, which would be very vindicating.)

Best Cinematography: Blade Runner 2049; Although phantom Thread's stylistic camerawork matches its protagonist, I have a gut feeling the sheer impact of a theatrical viewing of Blade Runner will help it pull some wins. I think even Tut would throw a bone to Roger Deakins, and he's subtly thrown his support behind the film in this category when between it and The Shape of Water. Giving Nolan an award would be too hard a pill to swallow too.

Worst Cinematography
The Mummy
(The cinematography is actually one of the better parts of Okja to be honest. Skull Island and Valerian are competently shot enough to avoid this category. While Justice League could win, I have a feeling Tut will want to spread some Worst of awards to The Mummy, whose DP's credits include Revenge of the Fallen.)

Best Visual Effects
Blade Runner 2049 (Colossal has some great CGI for its tiny budget, but Blade Runner simply has more impressive visual moments, between the aerial shots of the city, the sets, the practical effect details, and scenes involving dead people).

Worst Visual Effects
Justice League (Since apparently Steppenwolf looks like a PS2 cutscene and WB thought they could get away with an uncanny valley upper lip on Superman. Runner up is Transformers 5)

Best Scene: Flicking Jason Sudekis- Colossal (A good way to compensate this film would be to laud its best scene. Lady Bird is runner-up, partially because he didn't choose the airport scene)

Worst Scene
Neck stabbing- Beatriz at Dinner (The scene from The Circle is too funny to hate, which cost Eddie Redmayne the Tutties back when Jupiter Ascending was nominated. The Emoji Movie got snubbed in other major categories meaning it won't register as much, while Space Leia is spared due to lowered expectations. The scene from Beatriz expects you to remain sympathetic to the protagonist even though it's a hypocritical act on her part, and basically serves to validate the Punch-a-Nazi crowd or the sad group of people who use #Resist unironically. Okja is Runner-up due to being really anticlimactic).

Best Line of Dialogue

“Do you ever leave this place, Mae? We used to go on adventures, and have fun, and see things, and you were brave and excited. But now it’s all filtered through this. Bye.” -The Circle

Worst Line of Dialogue:

“Do you ever leave this place, Mae? We used to go on adventures, and have fun, and see things, and you were brave and excited. But now it’s all filtered through this. Bye.” -The Circle

The double win for The Circle is too tempting. Runner ups respectively are Lady Macbeth and The Last Jedi.

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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2018, 01:53:17 pm »
Nice picks. The double nomination for the line from The Circle made me chuckle. The line from BR2049 is great in theory but I can't help but nitpick the fact that
Spoiler (hover to show)
. Ah well.

Props for nominating Colossal in the Best VFX category. They looked great for a $12 million production.

Jake Gyllenhaal does not belong in the worst supporting actor category.  His performance in Okja was a masterpiece.

It hurt me to do that one, but I don't think I've ever cringed that much while watching a performance before. It was one of the most embarrassing displays I've ever seen.
I like the idea of his performance in theory, as I loved watching some of those Animal Planet shows like The Crocodile Hunter, but he really should have dropped the voice.

I'm seriously tempted to give The Circle the win in both of those categories. Also, agreed on Gyllenhaal 100%. That character could've been a breath of fresh air in that movie, but he was just awful. It was like he was being directed by this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBbRjvf1kPI

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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2018, 03:06:19 pm »
This is the most sexist set of nominees I've ever seen.
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2018, 03:16:13 pm »
This is the most sexist set of nominees I've ever seen.

First Al Sharpton, now this...

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2018, 03:19:52 pm »
This is the most sexist set of nominees I've ever seen.

First Al Sharpton, now this...

You nominated ten women for "worst." Well, women are never the worst. They are always the best. Change all female nominations to "best."
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2018, 03:24:20 pm »
Pleasantly surprised that Aubrey Plaza made it onto here. I’ve been meaning to see Ingrid Goes West for some time. Now I’ll definitely watch it.

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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2018, 03:32:54 pm »
Pleasantly surprised that Aubrey Plaza made it onto here. I’ve been meaning to see Ingrid Goes West for some time. Now I’ll definitely watch it.

I think you'd enjoy it, especially if you like Aubrey Plaza. I was pleased to have the opportunity to give her a shot at a Tuttie.

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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2018, 04:53:04 pm »
This is the most sexist set of nominees I've ever seen.
Dang, you'd think that with five Best Picture nominees having complex female protagonists the Tutties would steer clear of controversy.

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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2018, 05:55:37 pm »
This is the most sexist set of nominees I've ever seen.
Dang, you'd think that with five Best Picture nominees having complex female protagonists the Tutties would steer clear of controversy.

Yeah, but they all have flaws, which is a big no-no. Women are perfect.

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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2018, 02:52:45 pm »
When are these awards being held? I would like to know so I can finalize predictions.

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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2018, 02:54:07 pm »
When are these awards being held? I would like to know so I can finalize predictions.

Right after the Academy Awards. How many of us are actually going to do predictions this year?

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2018, 02:58:36 pm »
When are these awards being held? I would like to know so I can finalize predictions.

Right after the Academy Awards. How many of us are actually going to do predictions this year?
I'm almost about to finalize my own Oscar predictions. One of these days I'll almost beat Frank (and Cutler whenever he decides to return).

I also created a bingo board for fun.

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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2018, 03:32:52 pm »
When are these awards being held? I would like to know so I can finalize predictions.

Right after the Academy Awards. How many of us are actually going to do predictions this year?
I'm almost about to finalize my own Oscar predictions. One of these days I'll almost beat Frank (and Cutler whenever he decides to return).

I also created a bingo board for fun.

Reminds me of that bingo game I made for Fantastic Beasts... clever to do it on Letterboxd though. Also, with Cutler gone, we'll hopefully have a spam-free Oscars night.

 

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